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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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i would like to make 450-470 rwhp on a heads cam combo preferrably using gm heads ls6 or 5.3s, what im looking for is a combination that could also be daily driven. so please help!!!! or let me know your set up and how much you milled your heads
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Click on my signature and look on my web-page for mod details. I drive my car daily and rack up lots of miles. Perfect blend of balanced power and refinement IMO.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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thats some good power out of a 347 but the only thing is that i am poor and cant afford Afrs lol do you ahve anysuggestions witha 5.3 or a ls6 head?
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Call TSP,they can help you make the power.
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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who do i need to talk too up there to get it all put together
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Talk to any of them. Jason, Jon, Zach. Doesnt matter. I got the PRC Stage 1 LS6 heads with the MS4, spring upgrade, all seals/gaskets, ARP Crank bolt, Gears Motive 4.10, master install kit. Under 2300. They made 550 Crank HP with that setup.
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Beast what did you make at the wheels and is that streetable th ms4
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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whats your current setup just1news6
btw Im poor too so dont feel bad ..think about the starving pigmes
these lsx cars cost qite a bit to modifiy Im sticking with what I know best !driver mod some have @#$/*%^ power and its useless . Setup your cars drivetrain/suspension to run ballsout first before jumping into the internals .
400rwhp/400rwtq is more than enough to run 11's its all in the combo not just the power .
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use the power you have nitrous will net you 470rwhp easy push of a button

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speed is a matter of money. How fast can you afford to go? I'd go with AFR's. If you don't ahve the money for good heads, then you need to keep saving your pennies.
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alot of power has been made without the all mighty AFR's i think a good patriot setup would net you where you are trying to be... and of course the N2O will always get you what you want!
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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Yeah i almost have full boltons with the exception of the underdrive and the ls6 but those will be on before hand, but waht im looking at is the 2.04 2.055 valve on the intake side witha milled 59 cc combustion to raise compression does anyone know what kind of relief id have to run on the pistons to run a 232/234 595/598 cam ??? or if you have any other suggestions that would be great i have a friend running similar to this combo with 468 rwhp through cats
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Originally Posted by just1news6
Beast what did you make at the wheels and is that streetable th ms4
0RWHP and 0RWTQ right now. I am waiting for my heads (should be here mid of next week) to get here. I still havent got the setup up and running. Been busy at work. But from what I have heard, the MS4 can be tuned to be streetable.
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Originally Posted by 85ta383
alot of power has been made without the all mighty AFR's i think a good patriot setup would net you where you are trying to be... and of course the N2O will always get you what you want!
True, but the title said 470 rwhp NEEDED!!!!. Probably not many if any Patriot combos making 470+ rwhp. This is a case where spending the extra money will get you closer to the goal. Of course, good heads alone won't get you there. Proper intake, headers, catback, cc chamber size, head gasket size, cam size and tune all have to work in harmony with the head choice. The fine details are what will get you the extra 20-30 rwhp over just bolting up a set of heads and a one-size-fits-all cam.
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Originally Posted by just1news6
i would like to make 450-470 rwhp on a heads cam combo preferrably using gm heads ls6 or 5.3s, what im looking for is a combination that could also be daily driven. so please help!!!! or let me know your set up and how much you milled your heads
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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you're probably going to need a fast 90/90 also to break 470. That's pretty expensive. I had a cam ground for me, ordered the Patriot heads on sale, underdrive, and have the long tubes, ory, exhaust, lid, LS6 intake, home ported tb already..

..I'd fall over dead of shock if it breaks 450. I'm also trying to do this on a budget.
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on a mustang dyno i put down 463/402 with GTP stage 2+ heads and a T Rex cam. M6 car going through a strange 12 bolt w/ 4.11's spinning 315 tires. I'd like to see what it is on a dynojet. As said above...speed costs money...those heads were $2,800 but luckily i got them at the performance shops cost since i've done a tone of business there.
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