Patrick G

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Well said Don. Thank you.

Pewterme

I recently installed the 228/232 588/595 on a 110+1 LSA. It is on my 01 C5 6spd. I'm no cam guru but really like this cam. (Patrick recommended this cam to me.) It has good power under the curve and a nice little lope to it. Although it will buck in 1st gear when rpm's are around 1200 or so, this really hasn't been a problem to me. The right tuner might be able to take care of this. One thing I can tell you from my experience is get the cam degreed, don't go just by dot to dot. I learned this the hard way and it cost me extra money. Here is a soundclip of the cam with the mods listed in my sig.

http://media.putfile.com/228232-110LSA-on-Startup

KB99WS6

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I won't be the one installing it, a shop will. Should they automatically know to do this, or is this somethign extra I have to tell them. What happens if its not "degreed"...whatever that means

Thanks for the clip pewterme, sounds pretty good. Kinda iffy about the fact that you have bucking in first below 1200rpms though, b/c that would be a nightmare in traffic that I sit in sometimes. I am having the Vette Doctors dyno tune the car when done, but I hope this isnt a normal thing for that cam.

Predator - Is it normal to experience bucking under 1200 rpms in first with that cam, or is that a tuning issue? Also, what lifts should I get if I use XER lobes? the same as pewter has? I need the full specs please

Cantdrv - a 114+4 eh? What does the +4 do compared to the regular 114? Does that move the powerband down while still keepinmg nice idle of the 114?

lilbuddy1587

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Bucking, from what I understand has a lot to do with tuning and can usually be taken care of. As far as 114+4, that can be how many degree's of advance are built into the cam OR how the cam was degree'd during install. You are correct in that it brings the powerband down some and helps with dynamic compression.

KB99WS6

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Few more questions on this cam.

Where will the power peak? I don't want to raise the stock rev limiter, or maybe only a little bit. So need a cam to make best use below that.

How will low-end and midrange tq be compared to stock? I enjoy when I am on the highway and can just barely blip the throttle in 5th gear and the car just flies forward effortlessly.

Again, will this cam be fine in heavy stop and go traffic and a huge pain in the ***? (assume a good tune).

PREDATOR-Z

Peak will be in the 6300 neighbourhood. That cam is capable of over 300lbs +of trq by 3000 rpm.
Bucking and surging are tuning issues.

KB99WS6

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Ok, I have my LT's now and I am about to buy a cam and have narrowed it down between this custom cam and the TSP 228r. Please help me decide. What would the specific difference be between the two. Thanks!

BlueGoat06

i love my TSP 228R, i wanted a cam that would keep a decent amount of tq down low, (my car is very heavy compared to a vette), and that would make a decent amount of power up top, i didn't want to replace my stock clutch, or gear up to make for the loss of power down low, i drive 130 miles to get to office (round trip), lots of topics helped me to choose this cam, i know there are better options for better TQ, or for more HP up top, i wanted to have kind of like half and half, and so far and very happy with it.

dyno before cam


dyno after cam


hope this help.

cantdrv65

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The 228/228 XER cam is an excellent choice for a DD. I have the same cam on a 114 +4 LSA....It makes over 450rwhp and 410rwtq with my PRC stage 1 heads....Excellent power across the board. 300 rwtq at 2500 rpms....

KB99WS6

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a couple of nice argument for the TSP228r! Theres a guy on the corvette forum though that only got 416rwhp in an 02 Z06 with AFR 205's + TSP 228r (with supporting mods, LT's etc). the dyno was in 103 degrees and running 91 octane but thats still really low! Cantdrv65, now thats more like it!

Now, I am not sure which LSA to go with, 112 or 114?? If I choose 112, or 114 on their drop down menu does it automatically have the +4 advance in it?

cantdrv65

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Going with the 112 or 114 really isnt going to make a hell of alot of difference. You'll get a little more low end from the 112, and a slightly choppier idle(probably barely noticable in both cases). Make sure its advanced +4 however, this raises the DCR a few points, and yes gives you more low-end power. My cam was actually sold by Lingenfelter but its the same comp XER cam. Peak power is at about 6250rpms....Great for the street no need to rev to the moon....

There are plenty of cams that will make more power but not enough to sacrafice fuel economy etc. Regardless I still consider this cam large (funny eh?) and it requires a tune.