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actually looked at the pics, . . yea im sorry vanilla89, but you do think you know what you're talking about, . . . those ports are perfect! any more and he'll be making the foundation weak, (valve guides) any more removing of the "metal" (aluminum) and he'll probably be LOSING flow, . . . . the intake runners and large in the opening and gradually gets smaller as the air enters the combustion chamber, . . this allows the incoming air to gain stability and "pressure" making the area around the valve bowl bigger would cause a stall in air, . . . . . . NOW you can say you know at least something, . . . .
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Please use the PM system or call out your enemies on seatstaysup.
This wasn't intended to start a pissing contest. I just posted it to help people out and save them a little time.
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hey great page. will help alot of people. but as some people have pointed out, Id like to make clear that you did not use the correct carbide cutting bits. those are steel cutting burr's. easily distinquished (fancy word to make me sound smart)from the non-furres (now showing how dumb I really am cause I cant figure out how to spell that!). anyways the steel bits are tight teeth and the alum. ones have HUGE teeth. and wont clog even w/o oiling them. but its still recomended to keep them sharp. I'll take some pics of the alum. burr's tomorrow and email them to you. also you should mention on there not to touch the short side radius except with the medium grit sand paper rolls. and only to smooth the area not to remove any meterial. and warn people of hitting the valve seats sealing area.
good job though.
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good job though.
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Originally Posted by Irocss85
hey great page. will help alot of people. but as some people have pointed out, Id like to make clear that you did not use the correct carbide cutting bits. those are steel cutting burr's. easily distinquished (fancy word to make me sound smart)from the non-furres (now showing how dumb I really am cause I cant figure out how to spell that!). anyways the steel bits are tight teeth and the alum. ones have HUGE teeth. and wont clog even w/o oiling them. but its still recomended to keep them sharp. I'll take some pics of the alum. burr's tomorrow and email them to you. also you should mention on there not to touch the short side radius except with the medium grit sand paper rolls. and only to smooth the area not to remove any meterial. and warn people of hitting the valve seats sealing area.
good job though.
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good job though.
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now i just need to find a longer one, can someone tell me where they got their long burrs?
also, i agree about the short side radius, the guy that tought me how to port heads works at RCR now and said that there is no flow to be gained by removing material from the short side, just smooth it out alittle
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i'm glad you posted that up, because the burr that i was using had big teeth on it, and some people told me that it was the wrong one.
now i just need to find a longer one, can someone tell me where they got their long burrs?
also, i agree about the short side radius, the guy that tought me how to port heads works at RCR now and said that there is no flow to be gained by removing material from the short side, just smooth it out alittle
now i just need to find a longer one, can someone tell me where they got their long burrs?
also, i agree about the short side radius, the guy that tought me how to port heads works at RCR now and said that there is no flow to be gained by removing material from the short side, just smooth it out alittle
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Indeed I should post an explaination that I didn't use the correct burrs. It was a concious decision since I couldn't find a great deal on the non-ferrous variety. The steel cutting ones worked well although I'm sure it went slower because of the smaller bite.
Let me just say again that the pics are NOT OF MY WORK! LOL I compiled the collages before I started as a reference. The comments are pertinent it's just irking me when people are saying you didn't do this or that. No big deal though it's all good.
PM me for my email address if you have any additional pics that you think will be helpful for future porters. In all likelyhood, I'll probably post anything I get unless they are all glare or too dark since I know it's good to look at as many pics as possible when researching. If you can get pics from the exact same angle before (during) and after, maybe I'll do an animated gif.
I'll have to add the mcmaster-carr recommendation too.
Keep the feedback coming folks.
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Indeed I should post an explaination that I didn't use the correct burrs. It was a concious decision since I couldn't find a great deal on the non-ferrous variety. The steel cutting ones worked well although I'm sure it went slower because of the smaller bite.
Let me just say again that the pics are NOT OF MY WORK! LOL I compiled the collages before I started as a reference. The comments are pertinent it's just irking me when people are saying you didn't do this or that. No big deal though it's all good.
PM me for my email address if you have any additional pics that you think will be helpful for future porters. In all likelyhood, I'll probably post anything I get unless they are all glare or too dark since I know it's good to look at as many pics as possible when researching. If you can get pics from the exact same angle before (during) and after, maybe I'll do an animated gif.
I'll have to add the mcmaster-carr recommendation too.
Keep the feedback coming folks.
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
I got all my long burrs from mcmaster-carr. Great place to order from, and super fast shipping. I use them as often as I can.
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One tip though, even with the correct bits a first time head porter can remove WAAAAAAAAAAY to much material in a matter of seconds if they aren't careful. My suggestion is to start out with a junk set of heads first if at all possible, just to get used to what RPM the bits need to run at, as well as get a feel for what angles work best to keep the bit under control. If you can't get the bit under control, switch to sanding drums and/or mandrels as they remove material quite a bit slower and in a more controlled fashion than burrs do.
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After you get the right bit (non-ferrous), you'll be amazed. The chips will look like little shiny aluminum toe-nails on the ground they are so aggressive. You certainly have to hold back then.
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why would you do a home ported set of heads, and NOT have them flowed or checked in any way? basically you could have hurt performance with whatever you did to the heads, the only way to know if you did anything to help is have them checked out by a professional.
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Originally Posted by skipperbisket
why would you do a home ported set of heads, and NOT have them flowed or checked in any way? basically you could have hurt performance with whatever you did to the heads, the only way to know if you did anything to help is have them checked out by a professional.
I understand what you're saying, but for many like me this would be a very expensive and time consuming process. There's also valuable resources like LS1Tech where obviously everyone is a DIY porting expert,
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Originally Posted by skipperbisket
why would you do a home ported set of heads, and NOT have them flowed or checked in any way? basically you could have hurt performance with whatever you did to the heads, the only way to know if you did anything to help is have them checked out by a professional.
I didnt flow my heads, but I out dyno'ed a pair of stock ls6 heads by 35 hp on a car with only a slightly smaller cam (227/230 vs 232/234). Id say its entirely possible to have great results if you simply follow the guidelines many talented porters have shared with us.