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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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I am just curious what is out there that is the nastiest cam off the line for the LS1 motor? If I was going to pull a redwood out of the ground, with an LS1, what cam would I use, lol???? Seariously....
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I'm gonna say Torquer V2 on a 112 or something of the likes. The XER lobes provide pretty good torque down low.
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Can I get away without having to program my chitty computer and how does it do with VA emissions, seeing your 10 miles form me, lol.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Forget about passing emissions unless you have a TR224 on a 114 or smaller (AND a really good tuner). No matter what cam you go with you'll need a tune. I gave up on passing emissions a while ago. Thank God it's only every 2 years, and my fate shall be decided this upcoming February. At least now I'm running high flow cat's. We'll see how it goes
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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im in VA too and they just do visual here...hmmm with cats and exhaust that exits out the back im in the clear

oh and honestly an off the line cam is in your setup...i mean hell if your cam is a top end cam like the T-Rex thats the point of a High Stall or reving up your 6 speed and dumping the clutch at a certain RPM, because you wanna come "off the line" at your cams best power range.
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yea, it would have to work with my stock 241 heads too. Exhaust I could do later, if I kept the car.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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does the ms4 have a lot of low end torque
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does the ms4 have a lot
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Speaking of cams, I would also need a differant lenth manifold tuned lower also come to think of it???
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what ?
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Not that they make it, but, depending where you want your power, and if you had options, you would want to pick a manifold thats tuned to your cam, kind of like a converter being tuned to your parts. There are four basic designs that come to mind, for the small block chevy genI that I know of. They are the edelbrock

Performer Manifolds (idle to 5500 rpm)

Performer RPM Manifolds (1500 to 6500 rpm)

Torker II Manifolds (2500 to 6500 rpm)

Victor Series Manifolds (3500 to 8500+ rpm)

There are other manufacturers out there like holley and such that have similar manifolds. Now, if we only had such a LS1 option. Hmmm, maybe in 60 years, lol.
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just spray a 50 shot with your stock cam and a 4000 stall.

after breaking and replacing many of your stock parts, you will be able to pull stumps.
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If you have to ask if the MS4 has the down low power you want, if you need a different length runner intake manifold, and if you don't want to tune ("program") your car, a cam probably isn't the best choice for you right now. I'd read up a bit on cams in general. There is a good sticky up top. A cam in the 224-228x range on a 112LSA (I'd venture down to a 109-110lsa even), on LSk lobes on the intake and exhaust side would probably make the best low end torque out there. Now, whether or not you can pull up a Redwood...I dunno. N20 would be the quickest/cheapest/most drivable torque upgrade. There are people spraying a 200 shot on stock internals, just keep your rev limiter and A/F in check.
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Sooooo, I am not supposed to ask if I dont know? Then why would I ask if I DID know? I am just checking out all options, isnt that whats supposed to be done, match the appropriate stuff together? Not like I have the info hiddem up me bum and I just have to dig it out.

For what I want, I am looking at a baby cam, maybe 220's with 550 lift so far, that should let me stay with stock stuff. That should get me into the 350 range which is all I need for now. If I could find a cheap cam, I might even experiment with my 98 and use the 220 before I get a 99+ and go nuts!
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Originally Posted by csmc711
yea, it would have to work with my stock 241 heads too. Exhaust I could do later, if I kept the car.
Something like I have may be what you are looking for. Works well with stock exhaust manifolds and is ideal for the stock LS6 intake (standard in 2001 & 2002). Big improvement in torque over stock noticable even down at 2000 rpm.

It needs some tuning but it should pass emissions as it is roughly -8 overlap.

I posted a graph earlier this year in a stock exhaust manifold thread in this forum if you want to search for it.
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sure, every little bit helps, thanks ragtop.

Who's cam is that you have in yur sig and whats the 112 110 ? LSA? thought there was only one LSA, lol?

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Advanced 2 degrees, I would assume. 112 LSA with 110 ICL.
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I had a Thunder Racing TR220 (220/220 .551/.552 114 lsa) in my '04 GTO. Wasnt a dyno queen....355/350..BUT, that car had all kinds of low end torque. I could do a 3-4 shift at 80mph and light em up. I could hammer it from like a 5mph roll and smoke tires all day long. had a sweet smooth tq curve. Had tq in all areas. It was fun.
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I am selling the cam that Arctic was suggesting, shoot me a PM if you're interested the for sale thread is in my profile.
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How is that cam (Comp 228/232 .539/.542 112+2) you have now?
The lift looks appealing(easier on springs).
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