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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 03:47 AM
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What is it that causes LS1's to be such oil feinds? I have heard the PCV valve is horrible on these cars. I have also heard things such as ring flutter, loose piston/bore clearances. What is the issue in most cases where cars chug 2qts in 3K miles? How commin is usage that bad using a PROPER oil(0 or 5-40)? Sorry for all the dang technical questions as of late but I am planning on buying something here pretty soon (deal on property seems to be going well) and if I am going to drop the $$, I want the facts. Is it poor ring seal or other issues, or PCV or is there a legitimate piston/bore/ring flutter problem. The car I plan on would be 01-02 M6 if it helps. Thanks in advance!
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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i dont realy burn any oil . maybe at most a half a quart if that in between oil changes . i use kendal 5w30 synthetic with lucas synthetic oil stabilizer btw.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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My '00 WS6 has 27k on it and very really does it puff on start up. Doesn't appear to burn oil. Good luck.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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dad & brother both have vettes, 00 & 01. neither of them has to add between changes.
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mine used to burn oil fast on m1, a brand switch to rp was all that was needed for my car, the pvc seems to be a big contributor to the oil usage. my intake had oily film on it, so the ls1 pvc isnt the best, i just bought a new pvc valve (they also sell the whole ls6 valley cover and pvc system 100+$ dont remeber exact price) but mine no longer has issues, so the soposedly improved 6$ valve was enough for me.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 00454sscamaro
mine used to burn oil fast on m1, a brand switch to rp was all that was needed for my car, the pvc seems to be a big contributor to the oil usage. my intake had oily film on it, so the ls1 pvc isnt the best, i just bought a new pvc valve (they also sell the whole ls6 valley cover and pvc system 100+$ dont remeber exact price) but mine no longer has issues, so the soposedly improved 6$ valve was enough for me.

Was it the RP or the new valve that stopped the usage?
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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just change your pcv valve every 2-3 oil changes and it wont really be a problem. and yes running good oil like rp or german castrol will help.
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rp stoped it, havent installed the pvc i bought yet.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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I run RP and have no problems. Take the suggestions from this thread, and you should be ok.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Thanks, Still looking for feedback and all, I am planning to purchase a sports car in the next 6 months and the LS1 is getting top nod right now. Oil consumption is the only thing that is worrying me. My 5.0 sucks 2-2.5 qts in 3K miles and its a new motor with excellent compression test numbers and all that jazz, but it still drives me NUTS!!! I DO NOT!!!! WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN!!!!

I have heard the SHell full synthetic 0 or 5-40 is a good oil too. I know I have used 15-40 SHell in a lot of stuff and it works great. The best success story I have with it is the LT1 TA I woulght a few years ago with 150K miles on it. Owner ran 20-50 GTX. The 15-40 rotella cleaned so much **** out that the filter plopped black pudding out of it during every oil change I did for 2-3 changes (I did it at 3-400 mile intervals to clean her out). Car never used a dribble until I sold it at 170K miles and then it went to a federal impound b/c of the new owners...ermm...life choices.

Edit: when it comes to worrying over mechanical flaws im like a ferret on crack with OCD.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Just convert to the ls6 pvc set up. I was using a quart between changes. Ls6 conversion cleared up and using Valoline 5w30 since I bought it, hell use that brand in all past vehicles.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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LS6 pcv and a good oil like GC or amsoil should cover any type of light consumption problems.
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Amsoil 5w40 here, no noticeable consumption. Stock PCV. As a matter of fact, i'll try to remember to check it tomorrow to be sure. The oil has ~2.8k miles on it.
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ive seen that ams oil or royal purple tend to reduce problems with heat and consumption
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Mine has never consumed any measureable amount since new. When I had the motor apart swapping heads I upgraded to the LS6 PCV setup since I was in there. Go for an 2002 model, that's your best chance of a non oil burner. 2001's seem to burn oil the worst due to the rings GM used that year.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Guys using the Royal Purple, what weight are you using?
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan02SS
Mine has never consumed any measureable amount since new. When I had the motor apart swapping heads I upgraded to the LS6 PCV setup since I was in there. Go for an 2002 model, that's your best chance of a non oil burner. 2001's seem to burn oil the worst due to the rings GM used that year.

What rings did they use different that year?
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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mostly PCV design. After getting an ECS oil breather cap, I now lose only 1/2 qt between oil changes.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
What is it that causes LS1's to be such oil feinds? I have heard the PCV valve is horrible on these cars. I have also heard things such as ring flutter, loose piston/bore clearances. What is the issue in most cases where cars chug 2qts in 3K miles? How commin is usage that bad using a PROPER oil(0 or 5-40)? Sorry for all the dang technical questions as of late but I am planning on buying something here pretty soon (deal on property seems to be going well) and if I am going to drop the $$, I want the facts. Is it poor ring seal or other issues, or PCV or is there a legitimate piston/bore/ring flutter problem. The car I plan on would be 01-02 M6 if it helps. Thanks in advance!
My bone stock 98 WS6 had 60,000 miles on it before I did my modding (sig). When I would do 3,000 mile oil changes I would get 5 quarts out of it. Meaning it burned 1/2 quart in 3,000 miles. And some of that 1/2 quart is oil that can't come out during the change, so I don't think LS1's burn any oil. Many other friends with stock LS1's had the same burn between changes. Unless they have a problem.


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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 01tam6
Guys using the Royal Purple, what weight are you using?
10w 30 here.
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