Almost all the valve springs are broken. WTF!
I had a single 918 break, but it was at the bottom coil not the top which caused me to conclude it was a manufacturers defect considering the low mileage on the springs when I discovered it. I got lucky too in that there was no engine damage(the spring held together as if it wasn't broken). I didn't discover it until I was pulling the heads apart to ship them out to have them CNCed. When I went to lift the retainer and spring off the bottom coil stuck to the head. Because yours was such a large group it's unlikely that they all are defective. If the upper coil is the last to bind and yours all broke near the top coil that makes the argument that your geometry is out of wack. You better do some very close inspection before you put this engine back together.
Originally Posted by eallanboggs
I had a single 918 break, but it was at the bottom coil not the top which caused me to conclude it was a manufacturers defect considering the low mileage on the springs when I discovered it. I got lucky too in that there was no engine damage(the spring held together as if it wasn't broken). I didn't discover it until I was pulling the heads apart to ship them out to have them CNCed. When I went to lift the retainer and spring off the bottom coil stuck to the head. Because yours was such a large group it's unlikely that they all are defective. If the upper coil is the last to bind and yours all broke near the top coil that makes the argument that your geometry is out of wack. You better do some very close inspection before you put this engine back together.
Originally Posted by DaddySS
Where did you get the springs? Where are the blue stripes that should be on the 918s?
Last edited by DaddySS; Nov 2, 2006 at 03:14 AM.
I saw on your post on the forum these were bought from a place in their garage sale section (or something like that), were they used? Do they all have the blue stripe? Something is smelling very fishy with these springs. With the history on this forum that the 918's with the blue stripes have, these failures are totally out of character from what would be expected.
Originally Posted by HottLS1Z
As for those springs I think ur best bet is to call the comp help lie see if they have ever had this happen before and see what they recommend for pushrod size those guys really seem to know there stuff.
well i got it back togethor tonight. All the spring heights were good. So I got a new st of 918s. The new set looks alot differant in color, don't know why but they seem to fit bette on the heads. The other springs i had to pry the springs over to get the locks in. I also used the stock length pushrods this time and not the 7.425. They all were not broken but all but two on the pass side were and the drivers side only had two that were broken. I hope the springs were just **** because the old springs didn't set straight on the heads but the new ones do set good. I guess i will see what happens.
Originally Posted by mvvette97
So I got a new st of 918s. The new set looks alot differant in color, don't know why but they seem to fit bette on the heads. The other springs i had to pry the springs over to get the locks in.
I am concerned with your description of the original spring installation. Comp has the tolerances of the spring and retainer dimensions in their catalog. Based on your description, the failure on the top coil now makes sense. What I am concerned about is that it sounds like someone is passing off Comp 918 knock offs. I would contact Comp about this, they may want a sample spring.
Originally Posted by vettenuts
Glad to see you got it together and its running good.
I am concerned with your description of the original spring installation. Comp has the tolerances of the spring and retainer dimensions in their catalog. Based on your description, the failure on the top coil now makes sense. What I am concerned about is that it sounds like someone is passing off Comp 918 knock offs. I would contact Comp about this, they may want a sample spring.
I am concerned with your description of the original spring installation. Comp has the tolerances of the spring and retainer dimensions in their catalog. Based on your description, the failure on the top coil now makes sense. What I am concerned about is that it sounds like someone is passing off Comp 918 knock offs. I would contact Comp about this, they may want a sample spring.
If the retainer is a force fit, that's exactly where they will break. Based on your installation description, if I understand what you had to do to get them on, no real surprise there. Sounds like the new ones went right in with a "non sloppy" fit, which should be much better.
You may want to pull a valve cover after 100 miles and just peak at them to make sure it didn't happen again. Might save you in the long run.
You may want to pull a valve cover after 100 miles and just peak at them to make sure it didn't happen again. Might save you in the long run.
Originally Posted by vettenuts
If the retainer is a force fit, that's exactly where they will break. Based on your installation description, if I understand what you had to do to get them on, no real surprise there. Sounds like the new ones went right in with a "non sloppy" fit, which should be much better.
You may want to pull a valve cover after 100 miles and just peak at them to make sure it didn't happen again. Might save you in the long run.
You may want to pull a valve cover after 100 miles and just peak at them to make sure it didn't happen again. Might save you in the long run.
Just exactly what do you mean when you say you had to "pry" the springs over to get the locks in? That doesn't sound right and neither does your springs not setting straight in your heads as you describe it. If your springs don't "sit stright" as you call it you don't button the engine up and turn the key before you do something to make sure the springs ARE setting straight. This is beginning to sound more and more like the assembly process leaves a lot to be desired.
Last edited by eallanboggs; Nov 3, 2006 at 08:36 PM.
Originally Posted by eallanboggs
Just exactly what do you mean when you say you had to "pry" the springs over to get the locks in? That doesn't sound right and neither does your springs not setting straight in your heads as you describe it. If your springs don't "sit stright" as you call it you don't button the engine up and turn the key before you do something to make sure the springs ARE setting straight. This is beginning to sound more and more like the assembly process leaves a lot to be desired.
Originally Posted by DaddySS
Looking at the springs and at the blue stripe, something is very fishy - my guess is that those were not new 918s.
Kind of looks like coil bind. An installed height of 1.631" and .570"+ lift will definitely coil bind these springs. Why is the installed height so low? It should be around 1.80". Double check that height and make sure. If the height is really 1.63"ish then more than likely that's the reason for the spring failures.
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