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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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What made you choose 62cc? Is that an amount that puts you at a desirable DCR?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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When I talk to Gunnar I told him I wanted the highest cr I could go with 94 octane.he told me 62cc will yield me approx.11.1.That is how I based my decission.I hope I did not do anything wrong.Let me know If you think I did.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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No, no. It's just that you're talking about static compression ratio, but dynamic compression is what matters. That's why you mill... to get a static compression ratio that is high enough to get the desired dynamic compression with the cam you choose. I don't really know how dropping 2cc's will get you that high in compression, and I don't know how the TR224 works out in dynamic compression on that setup. You'd have to find the thread on it and do the math. I just thought that 62cc is a really odd size.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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I was haveing trouble downloading the dcr calculator.So with out that I am not sure how to figure this out.They told me it would be a couple weeks before they ship so I have some time to figure this out.Can you help with this?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Ok I am trying to figure my dcr.I have a few questions.Please if you don't know dont answer.Engine is 01 ls1 I need to know piston head volume(cc),gasket bore(in),deck clearence(in).Does anyone have the cam card for a TR224 112?I need to know the intake closing point(degrees) ABDC @.050.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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PianoProdigy had a DCR calculator on here somewhere. That way you just plug in your cam grind numbers and the rest is already there. The TR224 is an XE lobe with +4 advance, I believe.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Are you saying all the spec are allready loaded except for the cam spec?One problem is I don't have the cam yet so I don't have the specs.Is there any where on here to get this info?O yea I have to agree with you 40 sucks.I am 42
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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SCR 10.9, DCR 8.7

I used a 224/224,581/.581, 112+4 cam and a GM MLS gasket (.055" thick) 62 cc chamber.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Nice. There's your answer.
And that's "Ford". Not "forty". Sorry.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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4D SUX. sorry about that you know what they say when you asume something.Ha Ha
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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YankeeVert,How do you like that cam for a street cam?That Is the one that I am going to go with.Do you happen to know the intake closing point is on that cam.I just wanted to try this calculator myself.Its not that I don't believe you.How does setting this cam up on a 4* effect it?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 2fastWS6
YankeeVert,How do you like that cam for a street cam?That Is the one that I am going to go with.Do you happen to know the intake closing point is on that cam.I just wanted to try this calculator myself.Its not that I don't believe you.How does setting this cam up on a 4* effect it?
Give me your email address and I will send you the spreadsheet with the info.
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by N4cer
PianoProdigy had a DCR calculator on here somewhere. That way you just plug in your cam grind numbers and the rest is already there. The TR224 is an XE lobe with +4 advance, I believe.
The TR lobes are neither XE or XE-R. They are proprietary lobes with 50 rate variation (.006/.050), while the XEs are 53 and XE-R 49.
So more aggressive than XE and a tad less than XE-R.
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Old Jan 6, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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Aah thank you very much. I wasn't sure.
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For the money you cant beat the power or quality! And they looked so sexy when I got em.... I almost didnt want to put them on! All shiny and purdy....
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Awesome customer service at Patriot (Gunner) they took good care of me.
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would these work on the lq4? i know the bore is smaller on the 5.3 then the 6.0.
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Originally Posted by Ego Killer
just an update.. Im the one that started this thread.I ordered the PRC's and Im very happy with them I made 411rwhp and 372rwtq N/A and 550rwhp and 538rwtq on a 150 shot and thats with a A4 with a 3800 converter and 4.10 gears..my tuner said that if it had been a M6 it would have been around 450-460 NA

hmmmm.. not to burst your bubble.. 411rwhp with your current set up? Although those are "decent" numbers for a stalled A4. I am running a G5X3, unported LS6's ( for now) full bolt on's, and a Vig3600 stall and put down 403/405 @ the wheels.

Like you i am looking @ ported heads and had the same question. I will be going with TEA's stage2 LS6's.. I'll post up the results once installed.

No disrespect intended... Your's are good numbers...TSP makes an awesome product..
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