View Poll Results: Forced Induction 500RWHP VS N/A 500RWHP
Forced Induction 500RWHP
40
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All Motor 500RWHP
125
75.76%
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Forced Induction 500RWHP VS N/A 500RWHP
11-12-2006, 12:34 AM
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346 NA G5X3
http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Co...366b2d9a4e.htm
Nitrous has the same effect NA/ FI
http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Co...e306fcad75.htm
Nitrous 346
http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Co...5401518bf3.htm
Pick your poison
http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Co...366b2d9a4e.htm
Nitrous has the same effect NA/ FI
http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Co...e306fcad75.htm
Nitrous 346
http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Co...5401518bf3.htm
Pick your poison
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11-12-2006, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue02Ws6
It would totally be dependant on the setups, 550rwhp is 550rwhp with the optimal setup on both cars they will be equal.
setup as in suspension and drive train?
it is the car with the most torque under the curve that wins
11-12-2006, 08:13 PM
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67 tempest sigh
lets put it this way you can have 2 n\a cars with the same set up and one makes less peak horse power than the other yet on the track it could blow the higher HP cars doors off. The rule is the highest average torque\horse power wins. On the track in general the n\a car leaves quicker and the turbo runs him down.
lets put it this way you can have 2 n\a cars with the same set up and one makes less peak horse power than the other yet on the track it could blow the higher HP cars doors off. The rule is the highest average torque\horse power wins. On the track in general the n\a car leaves quicker and the turbo runs him down.
11-12-2006, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KHShapiro
2000 Tran Zam i must say i have never seen your graph before, thats damn nice across the board
Its a pretty healthy curve, lol.
11-15-2006, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KHShapiro
v8hunter nice respone
I agree
i would need to see some dyno numbers to see the power curve of a 500hp stroke and compare that to that of a 500 hp turbo
anyone want to dig some up in there respectful sections?
are we comparing v6 turbo vs n/a ls1 at the same power lvl?
what is it eveyone wants to compared? stock cube vs stock cube?
stroker vs stroker? or stock vs stroker?
I agree
i would need to see some dyno numbers to see the power curve of a 500hp stroke and compare that to that of a 500 hp turbo
anyone want to dig some up in there respectful sections?
are we comparing v6 turbo vs n/a ls1 at the same power lvl?
what is it eveyone wants to compared? stock cube vs stock cube?
stroker vs stroker? or stock vs stroker?
346 na vs 346 FI
Or
stroker na vs stroker FI
That way its fair in comparing apples to apples.
11-16-2006, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
I say if we compare, it has to be :
346 na vs 346 FI
Or
stroker na vs stroker FI
That way its fair in comparing apples to apples.
346 na vs 346 FI
Or
stroker na vs stroker FI
That way its fair in comparing apples to apples.
For me nothing like N/A 346ci putting down over 500rwhp cause it's not that easy to be obtained
peace
11-16-2006, 11:09 PM
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I think it should be
Stroker NA vs 346 FI
The cost of the stroker is similar to the cost of most turbo set-ups...to have a comparison of apples to apples.
Most people decide they are going to make power one way or the other, either NA and eventually go stroker to make more or FI to make more. It is the ones that go stroker and then FI that make the #'s like 2000 tran Zam. I think you would be hard pressed to find a stroker FI car that only makes 500 RWHP.
Stroker NA vs 346 FI
The cost of the stroker is similar to the cost of most turbo set-ups...to have a comparison of apples to apples.
Most people decide they are going to make power one way or the other, either NA and eventually go stroker to make more or FI to make more. It is the ones that go stroker and then FI that make the #'s like 2000 tran Zam. I think you would be hard pressed to find a stroker FI car that only makes 500 RWHP.
11-17-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
I think it should be
Stroker NA vs 346 FI
The cost of the stroker is similar to the cost of most turbo set-ups...to have a comparison of apples to apples.
Most people decide they are going to make power one way or the other, either NA and eventually go stroker to make more or FI to make more. It is the ones that go stroker and then FI that make the #'s like 2000 tran Zam. I think you would be hard pressed to find a stroker FI car that only makes 500 RWHP.
Stroker NA vs 346 FI
The cost of the stroker is similar to the cost of most turbo set-ups...to have a comparison of apples to apples.
Most people decide they are going to make power one way or the other, either NA and eventually go stroker to make more or FI to make more. It is the ones that go stroker and then FI that make the #'s like 2000 tran Zam. I think you would be hard pressed to find a stroker FI car that only makes 500 RWHP.
11-17-2006, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
I think it should be
I think you would be hard pressed to find a stroker FI car that only makes 500 RWHP.
I think you would be hard pressed to find a stroker FI car that only makes 500 RWHP.
500 is idling for a FI V8 . If you want to compare take a 11 :1 500rwhp NA engine ,run it , then add a FI kit of any sort to it plus some correct fuel of course . What we find is Na isn't **** .
How bout we quit bullshiting
http://stenodperformance.com/videos/Kempf816.wmv
Did I hear a bell ?
11-18-2006, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cws T/A
What we find is Na isn't **** .
How bout we quit bullshiting
http://stenodperformance.com/videos/Kempf816.wmv
Did I hear a bell ?
How bout we quit bullshiting
http://stenodperformance.com/videos/Kempf816.wmv
Did I hear a bell ?
11-18-2006, 01:41 PM
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semantics..... fun to argue huh...
NA 346 < FI 346 < 408 NA < FI 408 ...... and it goes on and on..
to answer the original posters questions... .most 500 RWHP cars produce equivelent torque... since horsepower is simply a figure of torque to begin with. Having that kind of power at 2k rpm all the way to redline in a NA engine is better then boosted power.... no boosted car has gobs of power at 2k rpm..... but who races from 2k?? answer is no one..... the point is an NA car does not require RPMs to make power...... no need to shift.... leave it in the wrong gear and the car will even pull in 5th or 6th.... where as an FI car just like a low powered 346 requires a change of gears.
This really is a dumb debate since all things are never equal... but if they where... weight, suspension, peak HP and Peak Tq numbers...... the NA car would win hands down.
Yet I assume that to be drivable the NA car would need to be a bigger cubed engine... rape the **** out of a 346 to get 500+ power and it is no longer very streetable.
cheers.
NA 346 < FI 346 < 408 NA < FI 408 ...... and it goes on and on..
to answer the original posters questions... .most 500 RWHP cars produce equivelent torque... since horsepower is simply a figure of torque to begin with. Having that kind of power at 2k rpm all the way to redline in a NA engine is better then boosted power.... no boosted car has gobs of power at 2k rpm..... but who races from 2k?? answer is no one..... the point is an NA car does not require RPMs to make power...... no need to shift.... leave it in the wrong gear and the car will even pull in 5th or 6th.... where as an FI car just like a low powered 346 requires a change of gears.
This really is a dumb debate since all things are never equal... but if they where... weight, suspension, peak HP and Peak Tq numbers...... the NA car would win hands down.
Yet I assume that to be drivable the NA car would need to be a bigger cubed engine... rape the **** out of a 346 to get 500+ power and it is no longer very streetable.
cheers.
11-18-2006, 05:51 PM
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no boosted car has gobs of power at 2k rpm.....
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Originally Posted by cws T/A
