View Poll Results: Which cam would you put in your car if you had my setup?
Ms4
84
46.93%
Ms3
40
22.35%
T-rex
41
22.91%
Other- explain
16
8.94%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 179. You may not vote on this poll
MS4, T-rex, MS3
Originally Posted by erikthegoalie
just threw in the MS3 tonight....we will see...i also am adding some PRC terminator 200 CC heads....YUMMY
How far did you mill them?
What compression are you going for?
Originally Posted by N4cer
Post the results. I wanna see how they do. Nobody will ever post results
How far did you mill them?
What compression are you going for?
How far did you mill them?
What compression are you going for?
I'm gonna show you how this "TSP turd" runs this weekend, bitch! See you in Ashland!
Originally Posted by N4cer
I hope you're joking. You're talking about what "they say" and not about the facts. The maker can claim a cam to be good for anything, and it doesn't mean they're right. The only thing that has to happen with any company is that the consumers read advertising enough to believe it. The MS cams have less power under the curve and peak higher than the Trex (from what I've read). That's why it's a tough call. You have on one side the facts of the cam. And on the other side the advertising that cloud one's thoughts.
But the biggest question is why limit it to these 3 cams when there are lots of equal or better cams out there?
See if this helps:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....6&postcount=15
But the biggest question is why limit it to these 3 cams when there are lots of equal or better cams out there?
See if this helps:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....6&postcount=15
"The MS cams have less power under the curve and peak higher than the Trex (from what I've read)." <-----Your problem is that you believe everything you read
Give me a break man.
Last edited by Zach@Texas-Speed; Dec 1, 2006 at 10:46 AM.
Originally Posted by N4cer
I hope you're joking. You're talking about what "they say" and not about the facts. The maker can claim a cam to be good for anything, and it doesn't mean they're right. The only thing that has to happen with any company is that the consumers read advertising enough to believe it. The MS cams have less power under the curve and peak higher than the Trex (from what I've read). That's why it's a tough call. You have on one side the facts of the cam. And on the other side the advertising that cloud one's thoughts.
But the biggest question is why limit it to these 3 cams when there are lots of equal or better cams out there?
See if this helps:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....6&postcount=15
But the biggest question is why limit it to these 3 cams when there are lots of equal or better cams out there?
See if this helps:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....6&postcount=15
Originally Posted by 1fastz28nx
I'm gonna show you how this "TSP turd" runs this weekend, bitch! See you in Ashland!
I get such a bad rap over speaking the truth. I'm sure I'll get some idiot talking smack over this too.
And Zach, I'm actually speaking about all the cams and all shops. It was not directed at TSP. I'm sorry you thought it was. But let me clarify:
I'm speaking about basically all businesses in all areas of life.
I have no beef with TSP itself, despite what some think. The TSP results are speaking for themselves.
And guys, I only posted the info that was already stated. I feel that a mod is much more fairly biased than a company and their employees. It's impossible to work for a company and not be biased. You'd be shooting yourself in the foot (or the wallet). For ANY employee of ANY company.
I clearly stated that's what I read (from a person who is not employed by a cam selling company). The truth to it can be left up to those who calculate all the valve events and interpret them.
I clearly stated that's what I read (from a person who is not employed by a cam selling company). The truth to it can be left up to those who calculate all the valve events and interpret them.
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Verdad Gallardo [QUOTE=N4cer]LOL! Let's light 'em off, ***** boy! Actually our tuner was bragging on your car a couple of days ago. I've never thought of your car as a turd. Yours is the one MS3 that our tuner said ran good. So let's see how good that "TSP turd" runs against this LGM fart.
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by mattraypharbor
go huge bro...consider a custom grind i went with a 236/242 601 610 112 lsa shift pts set at 6850 limiter at 7k i love this cam....
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From: BFE
Originally Posted by raymond mckinney
I have no problem with cruising with my Trex around town to work and i spray it aleast once a day. There's no need to pick a small cam just find a better tuner in my opinion!!
I'd say MS4 but I'm going to be a little biased. I just put in my MS4 and previously had a G5X3, and love this cam. It's got a tune on it from RPM done on the previous cam, so it doesn't drive bad, but I'm waiting to take it in to SQR for a full cam and nitrous tune.
Originally Posted by LS144
I just ordered my MS4 cam kit! We will see how it runs in a all forged motor with a turbo 350....
Hopefully I wont be dissappointed.
Hopefully I wont be dissappointed.
I think this guy is going a little deep by saying 2cc reliefs if you notch it yourself, but if you're going forged I assume you're already going with notched pistons. Anything else would be silly.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....8&postcount=70
Originally Posted by hammertime
DCR is a direct calculation of how much actual compression occurs after the intake valve closes. The reason DCR goes higher and higher as you go to shorter durations is because the intake valve is closing earlier. What you've seen is the exact reason why SCR needs to be higher to get better performance when going to a longer duration cam. It seems the greatest benefit is on the low end, but getting the proper SCR for the cam you select will improve power all around.
Said another way, a max effort cam like the MS4, which is still designed for cam only clearance, leaves a pretty low DCR. It works well up top simply as a result of the durations used, but it still only acheives a 7.67:1 DCR in a stock LS1 - a full point off of optimal for 93 octane pump fuel. Use 240/242, .649/.610, 111+2 in the calc to see for yourself.
Now use a .040 thick gasket and mill the heads enough to get 57cc chambers (a lot, would definitely require notching the pistons, so add 2cc for the piston dish) and you'll see a 11.8 SCR and 8.69 DCR. That setup would rock all the way around, and still make even more power on the big end.
Said another way, a max effort cam like the MS4, which is still designed for cam only clearance, leaves a pretty low DCR. It works well up top simply as a result of the durations used, but it still only acheives a 7.67:1 DCR in a stock LS1 - a full point off of optimal for 93 octane pump fuel. Use 240/242, .649/.610, 111+2 in the calc to see for yourself.
Now use a .040 thick gasket and mill the heads enough to get 57cc chambers (a lot, would definitely require notching the pistons, so add 2cc for the piston dish) and you'll see a 11.8 SCR and 8.69 DCR. That setup would rock all the way around, and still make even more power on the big end.