MS4+ETperformance240cc heads???
MS4+ETperformance240cc heads??? What do you think about this combo???
Magic Stick V.4 239/242, .649"/.609" Camshaft With Your Choice of Lobe Seperation 111deg.
The MS4 camshaft is the result of extensive engine dyno testing & research! Engine dyno results have shown over 80 horsepower gains with no other changes on a stock 2001 LS1 engine!!
2300-6800 RPM Power Band with a peak around 6400rpm
Valve Lift Intake Exhaust Valve Lift
.100" 73 57 .100"
.200" 152 114 .200"
.300" 210 164 .300"
.400" 266 204 .400"
.500" 312 224 .500"
.550" 327 228 .550"
.600" 338 231 .600"
.650" 346 234 .650"
.700" 320 236 .700"
Exhaust to Intake Flow Ratio 73%
Cylinder Head: G III LS1 11° Application: Street / Race
Port Volume: 240cc Chamber Volume: 35cc to 72cc
Test Bore: 4.000" Test Pressure: 28.00" Water
Intake Valve: 2.100" Exhaust Valve: 1.570"
and what is the option 11 deg. rocker pedestal ??? how will that help me?
Magic Stick V.4 239/242, .649"/.609" Camshaft With Your Choice of Lobe Seperation 111deg.
The MS4 camshaft is the result of extensive engine dyno testing & research! Engine dyno results have shown over 80 horsepower gains with no other changes on a stock 2001 LS1 engine!!
2300-6800 RPM Power Band with a peak around 6400rpm
Valve Lift Intake Exhaust Valve Lift
.100" 73 57 .100"
.200" 152 114 .200"
.300" 210 164 .300"
.400" 266 204 .400"
.500" 312 224 .500"
.550" 327 228 .550"
.600" 338 231 .600"
.650" 346 234 .650"
.700" 320 236 .700"
Exhaust to Intake Flow Ratio 73%
Cylinder Head: G III LS1 11° Application: Street / Race
Port Volume: 240cc Chamber Volume: 35cc to 72cc
Test Bore: 4.000" Test Pressure: 28.00" Water
Intake Valve: 2.100" Exhaust Valve: 1.570"
and what is the option 11 deg. rocker pedestal ??? how will that help me?
rocker pedestal I do not like the loobe seperation on that cam. as for the rocker pedestal option, we leave it open, you need them to run stock rocker armas with our heads, they position the rockers properly. if you were to run aftermarket rockers you would not need them.
thanks,
cary
thanks,
cary
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From: lubbock, tx
Originally Posted by cary et performance
I do not like the loobe seperation on that cam. as for the rocker pedestal option, we leave it open, you need them to run stock rocker armas with our heads, they position the rockers properly. if you were to run aftermarket rockers you would not need them.
thanks,
cary
thanks,
cary
Originally Posted by mikeith
what lobe seperation would you prefer....112? or better yet which CAM itself would you prefer w/ the 240cc's to get the best results
I'm still lost with the rocker pedistal deal I guess what i'm asking is would I need it... would it help me????
Launching!
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From: Michigan
Originally Posted by BlackSS2001
I'm still lost with the rocker pedistal deal I guess what i'm asking is would I need it... would it help me????
Do you plan on running stock rockers? If you do you will need the pedistal option.
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Dude call TSP they will max your set-up and get you straight... plus Save you a buck or two good luck.
I think that I remember hearing that one of there guys there is running 475 rwhp with a nitrous tune on the MS4 and PRC stage 2.5 5.3L heads. Then there is TERMINATOR that's pushing 490 rwhp all from TSP
I think that I remember hearing that one of there guys there is running 475 rwhp with a nitrous tune on the MS4 and PRC stage 2.5 5.3L heads. Then there is TERMINATOR that's pushing 490 rwhp all from TSP
Originally Posted by eamador11
why such a big runner head? That cant fit on a 3.90 bore
ETP 215s are designed for 346ci...
ETP 215s are designed for 346ci...
Just hang around here for a while and you'll learn all sorts of things. I know I have.
Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
Confused, person who thinks bigger is better.
Just hang around here for a while and you'll learn all sorts of things. I know I have.
Just hang around here for a while and you'll learn all sorts of things. I know I have.
I dont doubt you were able to bolt it on the block. But then arent you
ultimately putting a 4.00" bore head on a 3.90" block?
Then I would think the head is not being fully maximized to its potential. Im
just going by theory and what ive learned on here. with all do respect, I think
its great your setup can run mid 10s, but you got there in an "unorthodox" way.
ultimately putting a 4.00" bore head on a 3.90" block?
Then I would think the head is not being fully maximized to its potential. Im
just going by theory and what ive learned on here. with all do respect, I think
its great your setup can run mid 10s, but you got there in an "unorthodox" way.
You also have a solid roller track application. It does what it is intended to do, go to the track. I'm sure you'd agree that it is not the ultimate mild hydraulic cam set-up. Would I run the 240's on a stock bottom end hydro car? No. It would be 225's for me.
So your saying that the 240 head should out power a 225 or 215 head at any RPM givin the same set-up? I don't agree with that. The smaller head will make more low speed HP/TQ, but the bigger runner head will make more power, just at a higher rpm, at the sacrifice of low speed power.
Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Jon Kaase did some testing and did not find anything to support smaller runners made more power at any RPM.
Your right, I'm not 100% happy with my combo. **** its got less lift than most of the new cams on the market. If I were to do my setup again, I'd use a hydro LSK setup with 240cc heads. Can't remember but I thought brian tooley did some dyno stuff with a larger intake runner with more flow and it picked up pretty good on the dyno.
Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Your right, I'm not 100% happy with my combo. **** its got less lift than most of the new cams on the market. If I were to do my setup again, I'd use a hydro LSK setup with 240cc heads. Can't remember but I thought brian tooley did some dyno stuff with a larger intake runner with more flow and it picked up pretty good on the dyno.
