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Old Jan 7, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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1) yes, Just ask Fireball <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
2 I would upgrade the pushrods.
3) Stock length.
4) No. Any cam will respond better to ported heads including the B1
5) You can get very close. You can get a 220/220 114 or a 222/222 114 from comp with ~.560 lift and fast ramps.
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Old Jan 7, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by haole_boySS:
<strong>1) Is it worth it to use a B1 cam with stock heads?
2) If it is worth it, do you need to upgrade the pushrods or can stock be used.
3) If you need to upgrade the pushrods, what length do they need to be.

4) Would I be better off to just go with a LS1 Hot Cam instead since I can't stomach the 2000+ price for new heads?

5) Last but not least, I will probably get flamed for this but I noticed that the B1 cam from MTI is $459. <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">

Cant you get Comp Cams to custom grind you the same cam for $379???

any help is greatly appreciated.

Andy

[ January 07, 2002: Message edited by: haole_boySS ]</strong><hr></blockquote>My friend someone is always out there saling cheao heads like valve god.I think his were like 500 incomplete but you can take those and have them ported and save a massive amount of money.His number is 248-496-7887
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Old Jan 7, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by The Booker Man:
<strong>My friend someone is always out there saling cheao heads like valve god.I think his were like 500 incomplete but you can take those and have them ported and save a massive amount of money.His number is 248-496-7887</strong><hr></blockquote>

I already have a set of 5.3l aluminum truck heads but I dont know where to get them ported and polished.

I live in maryland, if anyone know some place relatively close, let me know. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Old Jan 7, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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Old Jan 7, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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I used the B1 with stock heads and it worked great! 37rwhp on the dyno from the cam alone!
Use hardeded stock length pushrods and some matching springs though.
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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Default B1 Cam with Stock Heads

1) Is it worth it to use a B1 cam with stock heads?
2) If it is worth it, do you need to upgrade the pushrods or can stock be used.
3) If you need to upgrade the pushrods, what length do they need to be.

4) Would I be better off to just go with a LS1 Hot Cam instead since I can't stomach the 2000+ price for new heads?

5) Last but not least, I will probably get flamed for this but I noticed that the B1 cam from MTI is $459. <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">

Cant you get Comp Cams to custom grind you the same cam for $379???

any help is greatly appreciated.

Andy

[ January 07, 2002: Message edited by: haole_boySS ]</p>
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 07:39 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Smoke_ur_5.0:
<strong>I used the B1 with stock heads and it worked great! 37rwhp on the dyno from the cam alone!
Use hardeded stock length pushrods and some matching springs though.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Was that a gain of 37 at peak? If so, what was that peak rpm? And were the gains under the curve very noticeable as well? I’m asking all of this because I’ve got a B1 that’s going in my car soon with stock heads. Thanks...
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Old Jan 8, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Here's the graph so you can see the gain clear across the rpm range (copy and paste link)


www.geocities.com/smoke_ur_50/images/b1cam.jpg

[ January 08, 2002: Message edited by: Smoke_ur_5.0 ]</p>
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Oh and here's one with the ported stage2 heads (copy and paste)

www.fbody.com/members/Smokeyour50/images/EMTheads.jpg

Gotta love the torque gains!

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Nice! Thanks for the graph, that’s exactly what I wanted to see <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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