New ARE Heads/Cam package results
01-30-2002, 06:59 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results [quote]Originally posted by DevilBird:
<strong>I don't see anything on their site. Around how much is this package?
Miah</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hope its OK to post a link to a non sponsors site. They are a distributor for ARE.
The link is to a description and price for the head/cam package. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
http://www.rapidmotorsports.com/mode...=1&intYearId=3
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<strong>I don't see anything on their site. Around how much is this package?
Miah</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hope its OK to post a link to a non sponsors site. They are a distributor for ARE.
The link is to a description and price for the head/cam package. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
http://www.rapidmotorsports.com/mode...=1&intYearId=3
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01-30-2002, 10:50 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results We are very happy with the results on this package. The price is $1650 for the whole H&C package including pushrods! The heads alone are in the $1150 range, we have a few sets in stock ready to go.
We will sell this package with whatever cam you want, the one we used here is a 220/226 114 with .544 lift; it runs on the factory tuning no problem in the M6, we just bumped the revlimiter with the hpp3.
We did a C-5 earlier on (a few years) and it pulled almost 390rwhp/380rwtrq.
We will sell this package with whatever cam you want, the one we used here is a 220/226 114 with .544 lift; it runs on the factory tuning no problem in the M6, we just bumped the revlimiter with the hpp3.
We did a C-5 earlier on (a few years) and it pulled almost 390rwhp/380rwtrq.
01-30-2002, 11:06 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results "I've watched your Vette go down the 1/4 mile, several times at St. Thomas. Other Vette owners may cringe, but us F-guys just <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> "
Richard - help me understand the us F-guys and laughing comment.
Tom
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Richard - help me understand the us F-guys and laughing comment.
Tom
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01-30-2002, 11:12 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results Tom: That's a big grin, not a laugh. I always get a big grin on my face watching a fast car <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Yours is especially sweet looking and goes like a bat out of hell.
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01-30-2002, 11:38 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results SORRY! I was waiting for a purple vette comment. You should check out the Motown Muscle board for some local upcomming events. I would like to see how you fare at the track with your new found power.
http://pub51.ezboard.com/bmotownmuscle82477
http://www.motownmuscle.com/calendar.shtml
Sorry again,
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http://www.motownmuscle.com/calendar.shtml
Sorry again,
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01-31-2002, 12:38 AM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results That date might work Tom. I wonder if I can persuade ChrisARE360 to come down too. That way, I'll have a ride home after I toast the stock clutch (if it lasts till then).
I guess its time to check the mileage from St. Thomas to ARE to see if my Auto club will cover the tow <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Richard
I guess its time to check the mileage from St. Thomas to ARE to see if my Auto club will cover the tow <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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01-31-2002, 04:53 AM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results [quote]Originally posted by Bugblndr:
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I guess its time to check the mileage from St. Thomas to ARE to see if my Auto club will cover the tow <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Richard</strong><hr></blockquote>
From Mississauga to St.Thomas is 170km Richard, so that's just over the limit for CAA plus. I would imagine St.Thomas is a further drive for you since you're further south and have to come up highway 6 first. You could always have the car towed to Chris F's place in London! <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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I guess its time to check the mileage from St. Thomas to ARE to see if my Auto club will cover the tow <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Richard</strong><hr></blockquote>
From Mississauga to St.Thomas is 170km Richard, so that's just over the limit for CAA plus. I would imagine St.Thomas is a further drive for you since you're further south and have to come up highway 6 first. You could always have the car towed to Chris F's place in London! <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
01-31-2002, 09:14 AM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results Let me know the date Richard and I will go <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I am shooting to head to St Thomas the first Sat in April for the opening TNT <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I cant freaking wait hahah!
I just need my shiftlight, new rims and slicks and right rear airbag and I am ready to go <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Cheers,
Chris
I am shooting to head to St Thomas the first Sat in April for the opening TNT <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I cant freaking wait hahah!
I just need my shiftlight, new rims and slicks and right rear airbag and I am ready to go <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Cheers,
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01-31-2002, 01:24 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results You guys let me know when everyone is going to St.Thomas and I am there. I should have the ARE 436 in and tuned by the time the track opens for the season.
I usually end up at St Thomas on Friday nights and its all little punks dragracing their dad's pickups <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
I usually end up at St Thomas on Friday nights and its all little punks dragracing their dad's pickups <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
01-31-2002, 01:34 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results boy oh boy... I dont want to be the big "detractor" here... But several folks have made that much or more power with:
intake, headers, "medium" cam, pulley, LS6 intake, and MAFT or custom tuning.
Seems like that would cost less. Assuming that the intake cost you 15 hp and the gears 7, you are down 22hp to a LS6 intaked 3.42 car. Add that to your cutout clsed #s and you would be at 392 rwhp. Folks have done that without removing the heads.
Now, Im not trying to get in here and say you went with the wrong route or spent too much $$$. I guess I'm just saying that there are cheaper ways to make more HP. 381hp is still fun hp though. Congrats on the new stuff <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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intake, headers, "medium" cam, pulley, LS6 intake, and MAFT or custom tuning.
Seems like that would cost less. Assuming that the intake cost you 15 hp and the gears 7, you are down 22hp to a LS6 intaked 3.42 car. Add that to your cutout clsed #s and you would be at 392 rwhp. Folks have done that without removing the heads.
Now, Im not trying to get in here and say you went with the wrong route or spent too much $$$. I guess I'm just saying that there are cheaper ways to make more HP. 381hp is still fun hp though. Congrats on the new stuff <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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01-31-2002, 01:54 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results [quote]Originally posted by Visceral:
<strong>Assuming that the intake cost you 15 hp and the gears 7, you are down 22hp to a LS6 intaked 3.42 car. Add that to your cutout clsed #s and you would be at 392 rwhp. Folks have done that without removing the heads.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not sure I follow your math:
Cut-out closed = 381 HP
....Intake/Gears = 22 HP (your #)
............Total = 403 HP
413 HP with cut-out open. Very nice numbers, especially if he has CATS (I don't know)
[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</p>
<strong>Assuming that the intake cost you 15 hp and the gears 7, you are down 22hp to a LS6 intaked 3.42 car. Add that to your cutout clsed #s and you would be at 392 rwhp. Folks have done that without removing the heads.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not sure I follow your math:
Cut-out closed = 381 HP
....Intake/Gears = 22 HP (your #)
............Total = 403 HP
413 HP with cut-out open. Very nice numbers, especially if he has CATS (I don't know)
[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</p>
01-31-2002, 02:00 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results [quote]Nick, can you give us some more details on the heads? stock valves? compression ratio?<hr></blockquote>
I'm not Nick, but the heads are using stock valves and retainers, Comp 918 springs, are are milled .030 for 10.8 Compression.
Richard
I'm not Nick, but the heads are using stock valves and retainers, Comp 918 springs, are are milled .030 for 10.8 Compression.
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01-31-2002, 02:14 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results Most cam cars will all boltons make between 360-367 RWHP
Dont forget Richard is running stock tuning, 4.10 gears, 17 inch rims and tires, NO UD pullies, NO ACPT Driveshaft, NO Lightweight flywheel, NO 3.42's in stock rear.
If he did all the changes listed above he would likely be 415+ RWHP easily through open cutout.
Cheers,
Chris
Dont forget Richard is running stock tuning, 4.10 gears, 17 inch rims and tires, NO UD pullies, NO ACPT Driveshaft, NO Lightweight flywheel, NO 3.42's in stock rear.
If he did all the changes listed above he would likely be 415+ RWHP easily through open cutout.
Cheers,
Chris
01-31-2002, 02:15 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results [quote]Not sure I follow your math:
Cut-out closed = 381 HP
..Intake/Gears = 22 HP (your #)
.........Total = 403 HP
413 HP with cut-out open. Very nice numbers, especially if he has CATS (I don't know)
<hr></blockquote>
I've got MAC cats and stock cats sitting in the rafters of my garage. Does that count? <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
I've seen posts from others that have gotten more HP than me without heads. Since the heads are the most expensive part, I'm sure they would've gotten away cheaper too. I chose my mod course a little differently than they did.
As time goes by, I've always got the cheaper boltons I can strap on. I can always get it tuned. It just all costs money, and I'm about tapped out for now <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
Richard
Cut-out closed = 381 HP
..Intake/Gears = 22 HP (your #)
.........Total = 403 HP
413 HP with cut-out open. Very nice numbers, especially if he has CATS (I don't know)
<hr></blockquote>
I've got MAC cats and stock cats sitting in the rafters of my garage. Does that count? <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
I've seen posts from others that have gotten more HP than me without heads. Since the heads are the most expensive part, I'm sure they would've gotten away cheaper too. I chose my mod course a little differently than they did.
As time goes by, I've always got the cheaper boltons I can strap on. I can always get it tuned. It just all costs money, and I'm about tapped out for now <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
Richard
01-31-2002, 06:27 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results Hey Matt!
Check out my above post. I have a link to the event at St.Thomas. No excuses, I expect to see you there! I have a little ole 422 to put up to your 432. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Tom
Check out my above post. I have a link to the event at St.Thomas. No excuses, I expect to see you there! I have a little ole 422 to put up to your 432. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Tom
01-31-2002, 07:04 PM
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Re: New ARE Heads/Cam package results [quote]Originally posted by Ragtop 99:
<strong>
Not sure I follow your math:
Cut-out closed = 381 HP
....Intake/Gears = 22 HP (your #)
............Total = 403 HP
413 HP with cut-out open. Very nice numbers, especially if he has CATS (I don't know)
[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
My apologies. I thought I had seen 371 with the cutouts closed. Mis-read. Indeed good numbers then if you can add the pulleys, LS6 intake, and some MAFT tuning and deduct for the gears. I also just recalled that I was generally getting about 15hp from MAFT tuning as well. LS1 edit may get the same benefit or more.
But dont ya love the way you just seem to always be 2 or so mods away from just where you want it? <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
\chris
<strong>
Not sure I follow your math:
Cut-out closed = 381 HP
....Intake/Gears = 22 HP (your #)
............Total = 403 HP
413 HP with cut-out open. Very nice numbers, especially if he has CATS (I don't know)
[ January 31, 2002: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
My apologies. I thought I had seen 371 with the cutouts closed. Mis-read. Indeed good numbers then if you can add the pulleys, LS6 intake, and some MAFT tuning and deduct for the gears. I also just recalled that I was generally getting about 15hp from MAFT tuning as well. LS1 edit may get the same benefit or more.
But dont ya love the way you just seem to always be 2 or so mods away from just where you want it? <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
\chris