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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro Girl
I'm a girl, you know what I'm gonna say.... LOL....
Bigger is better? or..
Its not the size of the cam but how you use it?
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue Meanie
Bigger is better? or..
Its not the size of the cam but how you use it?
Bigger is better... And it's a lie.... size does matter.....
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sad
Thanks everyone! I have decided to do the smart thing for now, and will keep the 221 cam. I purchased the 5.3 heads with 2.02 intake valve. But I will have enough clearance to drop in the 233 if I am not happy with my cam.
I think you made the right choice, especially for a DD.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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What?!? Chrispy and I agree?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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I think you made the right choice on the cam....I think I expressed my opinion pretty clearly though. Let us know how it runs and the power it makes.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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What does your cam now sound like, I am getting one similar
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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My car puts 400rwhp and 380rwtq with an A4 and 3600 edge converter,LT's,Y-pipe,Corsa, and SLP air lid. This is my DD and have no problems at all once it's warmed up.
Here's a little idle vid of it


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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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thanks man
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 02:32 AM
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I thought I had my mind made with an F13 112.. but after reading this thread, it kind of scares me. Is the F13 not a good choice if I am eventually going to get LS6 heads, but as of now I will probably keep stock? Car will have LT's, already has LS6 intake, and SLP lid. I plan to drive it on the street more, but am looking for 400 rwhp, without robbing low end and midrange power. I have been trying to decide on a cam for 4 months now, and keep going back and forth. Not trying to steal a thread, but while the subject is open......

P.S.- Car is an M6, with stock gears but soon to be upgraded to 3.73's
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 96LT4
My car puts 400rwhp and 380rwtq with an A4 and 3600 edge converter,LT's,Y-pipe,Corsa, and SLP air lid. This is my DD and have no problems at all once it's warmed up.
Once it's warmed up. Need I say more?

For a daily driver stay with 224/224 or smaller.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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or smaller
or stock
or slow
sounds the same
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SunsetHawk
I thought I had my mind made with an F13 112.. but after reading this thread, it kind of scares me. Is the F13 not a good choice if I am eventually going to get LS6 heads, but as of now I will probably keep stock? Car will have LT's, already has LS6 intake, and SLP lid. I plan to drive it on the street more, but am looking for 400 rwhp, without robbing low end and midrange power. I have been trying to decide on a cam for 4 months now, and keep going back and forth. Not trying to steal a thread, but while the subject is open......

P.S.- Car is an M6, with stock gears but soon to be upgraded to 3.73's
I'd say if your not sure get something midway. Not as small as mine (although I think the slower ramps on mine make it seem bigger), but not as big as the f13. Something in the 224-228 range. That should be a good middle ground. Don't know if you'll make 400rwhp though.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SunsetHawk
I thought I had my mind made with an F13 112.. but after reading this thread, it kind of scares me. Is the F13 not a good choice if I am eventually going to get LS6 heads, but as of now I will probably keep stock? Car will have LT's, already has LS6 intake, and SLP lid. I plan to drive it on the street more, but am looking for 400 rwhp, without robbing low end and midrange power. I have been trying to decide on a cam for 4 months now, and keep going back and forth. Not trying to steal a thread, but while the subject is open......

P.S.- Car is an M6, with stock gears but soon to be upgraded to 3.73's
If you go with the F13, you would be better off with at least 390's than the 373's. I think the 373's would work well with the cam the other guy suggested 224\228 112.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OhIt'sBeenBraughten
Once it's warmed up. Need I say more?

For a daily driver stay with 224/224 or smaller.

Trust me it isnt bad at all.....It's a good cam. I start it up for about 2 min before I drive off and that is all. I can drive it with out being warm but it surges a little, and hardly stalls It's best is 11.80's @118 on stock 3.23 gears and the mods mentioned above with only 13k miles on the car!!!

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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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You still need to let a 224 cam warm up. Anybody who tells you differently is just misinformed. And you just need to get the oil flowing some, and don't take it above about 2k rpms until it's up to temp. I drive my car just fine under 2k rpms. If you can't, you'd better get a better tuner.
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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i voted 233-239
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 04:24 AM
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I had great results with my 221 cam and could honestly could have seen 430 with heads. Only reason im going with something different is because the motor is out of the car.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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if i was doing heads i would go with the bigger cam!!
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chino_man279
Depends on how you want to use the car. The bigger cam will probably only get you another 12 rwhp peak and give up a decent amount in the low and midrange. If you do happen to go with the bigger cam, mill them heads down to bring your dcr back to where you want it. This will help liven up the midrange of the bigger cam.

I say if you are going with the budget heads now, stay with your current cam. Eventually you will probably do a larger motor or a larger shot of the happy juice. Save up for that, then when you do shoot for the rebuild get some top shelf heads(AFR, Trickflow, ETP, etc...) and then get a completely custom grind to your goals at the time.

I say save your money for the long run. Get the better gas mileage and driveability of the smaller cam right now and give of the 12 or so horse...at least N/A. My view probably will not be a popular one though.
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If I didn't read your reply I would have definately ended up posting pretty much the same thing.
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