Biggest cam without flycutting??
Biggest cam without flycutting?? I'm thinking about changing up my setup a little over the winter. Currently, I'm running the TSP MS3 with some PRC stg.1 heads which has stock size valves.
I'm looking to change the heads to either the TFS 215cc,the AFR 205/225cc, or the ETP 215cc. I know that the ETP 215cc with the MS3 requires flycutting. I was told that the AFR 205s will fit without milling, but it'll be close. No idea if the TFS heads will fit or not.
If I need to I'll probably swap out the cam to a smaller one to take one of those heads milled so I can get more compression. I also spray 150shot on top of the H/C as well.
Any ideas??
I'm looking to change the heads to either the TFS 215cc,the AFR 205/225cc, or the ETP 215cc. I know that the ETP 215cc with the MS3 requires flycutting. I was told that the AFR 205s will fit without milling, but it'll be close. No idea if the TFS heads will fit or not.
If I need to I'll probably swap out the cam to a smaller one to take one of those heads milled so I can get more compression. I also spray 150shot on top of the H/C as well.
Any ideas??
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My understanding is that you would have more P/V clearance with all of those heads. The AFR's have more I guess due to the chamber shape and depth of the valve seat, and the others have more due to the better valve angles.
Originally Posted by NeverT00fast
Biggest cam without flycutting??
Any ideas??
Any ideas??
Originally Posted by NeverT00fast
I'm looking to change the heads to either the TFS 215cc,the AFR 205/225cc, or the ETP 215cc. I know that the ETP 215cc with the MS3 requires flycutting. I was told that the AFR 205s will fit without milling, but it'll be close. No idea if the TFS heads will fit or not.
If I need to I'll probably swap out the cam to a smaller one to take one of those heads milled so I can get more compression. I also spray 150shot on top of the H/C as well.
Any ideas??
ETP's will clear due to there 11* Valve Angle. Thats the way i would go if i did it again and a trex cam. AFR's wont clear that big of a cam. Whats worng with your setup now? You can fit a trex under the prc's if you wanted a lil bigger cam. I have the prc stg. 2's and MS3, I would have liked more tq out of the setup but the NX makes up for that 
Originally Posted by NeverT00fast
I'm thinking about changing up my setup a little over the winter. Currently, I'm running the TSP MS3 with some PRC stg.1 heads which has stock size valves.
I'm looking to change the heads to either the TFS 215cc,the AFR 205/225cc, or the ETP 215cc. I know that the ETP 215cc with the MS3 requires flycutting. I was told that the AFR 205s will fit without milling, but it'll be close. No idea if the TFS heads will fit or not.
If I need to I'll probably swap out the cam to a smaller one to take one of those heads milled so I can get more compression. I also spray 150shot on top of the H/C as well.
Any ideas??
I'm looking to change the heads to either the TFS 215cc,the AFR 205/225cc, or the ETP 215cc. I know that the ETP 215cc with the MS3 requires flycutting. I was told that the AFR 205s will fit without milling, but it'll be close. No idea if the TFS heads will fit or not.
If I need to I'll probably swap out the cam to a smaller one to take one of those heads milled so I can get more compression. I also spray 150shot on top of the H/C as well.
Any ideas??
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Originally Posted by ttboydfw
You will not have to flycut if you decide to go with ETP 215. I have the MS3 on 113LSA and ran a .045 cometics head gasket with my ETP 215 with a 62cc and had lots of room. I could have even milled the heads some or I could ran a thinner head gasket. Good luck
Do you have any numbers yet with the ETPs yet? What was you final C/R with the setup? Did you get a chance to measure your PTV?
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Um, if you'll have the heads off anyway, just flycut. That way you can run proper compression and whatever cam you want, and not have PTV clearance issues. Problem solved.
Originally Posted by 35thls1ss19
ETP's will clear due to there 11* Valve Angle. Thats the way i would go if i did it again and a trex cam. AFR's wont clear that big of a cam. Whats worng with your setup now? You can fit a trex under the prc's if you wanted a lil bigger cam. I have the prc stg. 2's and MS3, I would have liked more tq out of the setup but the NX makes up for that
So do the TFS heads also have the 11* valve angle like the ETPs?
How do I flycut the pistons anyways?
Originally Posted by The1N_only
Flycutting isnt hard to do at all, if you have the mechanical skills to do a head and cam swap you should have the ability/skills to flycut. This isnt rocket science
Here is a picture of what i was talking about earlier. LG posted this picture in another thread a while back. You can see where the stock LS6 heads need to be cut and where the ETP heads need to be cut
Originally Posted by NeverT00fast
I'll be doing the work on my own with my friend. If I wanted to flycut the pistons, I'd have to bring the car with the pistons showing to a local shop. Even then, it'd still be $400 plus all the towing back and forth.
Do a search and you'll find instructions. I'll see if I can find any of my old PMs explaining what I remember from my build.
Originally Posted by NeverT00fast
That's great news, cause they had to flycut a Z06 at the shop that I went which had that setup.
Do you have any numbers yet with the ETPs yet? What was you final C/R with the setup? Did you get a chance to measure your PTV?
Do you have any numbers yet with the ETPs yet? What was you final C/R with the setup? Did you get a chance to measure your PTV?
Originally Posted by N4cer
What about the exhaust valve clearance? I believe that's the one that smacks, not the intake valve.