Anybody using Jesel's or T&D's

Best price and place to buy??

Thanks

 

tad is cheaper, jesel is better quility i think.
cheap? aint none of this stuff cheap any more.
try one of our sponsors, they should be able to hook you up.

steve frank

 

On a street motor not seeing high rpms constantly, the T&Ds will work just fine. I was using these on my solid roller motor and was very impressed with the quality. Thunder Racing sells them.

www.thunderracing.com

Jason

 

I see nothing wrong with T&D's in any application. Some Winston Cup teams use them, and I have a friend building a 600 ci BB Ford running a .800 lift cam at 8000. If T&Ds work with that monster, they will work with just about anything

 

Jesel's new Street-Strip series is $700-$750 depending on the ratio. They are available in 1.7, 1.75 and 1.8

 

I had a set of T&Ds for the LS1. Several things went wrong, the instructions were not correct, and i ended up breaking a bolt off in my head, and the different pushrod placement did not match the pushrod holes in the head. I had to pull the heads off again to clearance them. Later several other bolts broke. I would not use T&D again. I would have been much happier with Jesel's stuff.

The Jesel Street/Strip stuff is non-adjustable according to one of the tech fellows at Jesel.

\chris

 

I got a price , about $640
for Street Strip Jesels

When I talked to the sales person he mentioned
that they needed to have me use the supplied
Pushrod length checker and then call him
back with the measurements to make the pushrods.

Uhm , if they are not adjustable then "WTF" would I want to use them ????

The whole idea is so you can adjust them ,duh.

I sure as hell aint gonna spend $1300 for the Y2J
set up , just so I can adjust them .

The big difference between the T&Ds is the aluminum alloy they use , Jesel uses 7075 and T&D i think uses 2024 , 7075 is far superior in strength.

But I've seen the best expensive parts break and stock parts hold up to some extreme conditions

so who knows , its all luck of the draw........


My main concern is rocker arm to spring clearance
if they clear I'm keeping them stock

****Plus you got to buy some new valve covers
at $500 to cover those new $1300 rocker arms :-)
and still have to buy a set of pushrods .......

 

The T&D's are like $750'ish and they are adjustible.

 

Jason T&D's are on more Winston Cup cars than are Jesel's. I not saying T&D's are any better or worse. I think both companys are making street versions. I think the difference between street and race versions is pressure fed trunions and tips which requires more machining hence the higher price.

Sorry to tell some of you this but when dealing with hardcore racing valve train pieces this is not a bolt-on world. All shaft rocker systems have gauges to check for proper pushrod lenght. The manufacturers have no way of knowing how much deck and head surface has been removed or how much lift the cam has in your application. All of these varibles contribute to proper pushrod length to obtain the correct valvetrain geometry.

So don't knock a manufacturers product because of your ignorance of its instalation procedures.

As for grinding clearence for pushrods that's just part of the game... Live with it or spend the money on strobe lights and playstations.

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