I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam?
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I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? I have a 2001 SS with a Vortech supercharger, LT headers, and all the bolt on's. See my SS page for a full list.
I am about to get the heads & cam done and I wanted to see if any of you have any comments on this cam selection:
[quote]Cam specs are 214/224 on a 114LSA. Very tame on the intake side and about a stock idle, but larger on the exhaust side to help with scavenging with the SC application.<hr></blockquote>
I am about to get the heads & cam done and I wanted to see if any of you have any comments on this cam selection:
[quote]Cam specs are 214/224 on a 114LSA. Very tame on the intake side and about a stock idle, but larger on the exhaust side to help with scavenging with the SC application.<hr></blockquote>
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? Talk to the guys at goldenwestperformance.com, I just bought a head and cam packages from them that complements my ATI supercharger. Tell them that Carlos refered you.
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? Thanks for the comments, guys. I was just checking out cams on tbyrne.com and noticed that these are the same specs as their "blower cam". I am not a cam expert, so I appreciate your feedback.
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? I would go with a 221/224 114LSA .566 lift cam with double springs IMO <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
driveability is great and you will pick up power over the other cam you listed.
Cheers,
Chris
driveability is great and you will pick up power over the other cam you listed.
Cheers,
Chris
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? [quote]Originally posted by Chris ARE 360:
<strong>I would go with a 221/224 114LSA .566 lift cam with double springs IMO <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
driveability is great and you will pick up power over the other cam you listed.
Cheers,
Chris</strong><hr></blockquote>
So, that means that the intake valve will be open a little longer, right? Do you think 214 is not enough? Does longer = more power? If so, what is the downside? Why wouldn't everybody just have huge cams? Can you tell me any more about the double springs?
I am trying to learn more about cams and I'm genuinly curious, so please don't mistake my honest questions for sarcasm.
<strong>I would go with a 221/224 114LSA .566 lift cam with double springs IMO <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
driveability is great and you will pick up power over the other cam you listed.
Cheers,
Chris</strong><hr></blockquote>
So, that means that the intake valve will be open a little longer, right? Do you think 214 is not enough? Does longer = more power? If so, what is the downside? Why wouldn't everybody just have huge cams? Can you tell me any more about the double springs?
I am trying to learn more about cams and I'm genuinly curious, so please don't mistake my honest questions for sarcasm.
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? [quote]Originally posted by SpeedRacer:
<strong>Can you tell me any more about the double springs?
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Lotsa guys here have WAY more knowledge than me Kyle (I was going to suggest over on SLP that you ask this question here, but then I saw you already had!), but I believe I can answer the double-spring question accurately: The point of double-springs is insurance. There is a second spring under each valvespring, whose sole purpose in life is to catch the valve if the main spring breaks. This is obviously a great idea...take away most of the risk of a valve meeting a piston in the event of a main spring failure.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I was told when I asked this awhile ago <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
<strong>Can you tell me any more about the double springs?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Lotsa guys here have WAY more knowledge than me Kyle (I was going to suggest over on SLP that you ask this question here, but then I saw you already had!), but I believe I can answer the double-spring question accurately: The point of double-springs is insurance. There is a second spring under each valvespring, whose sole purpose in life is to catch the valve if the main spring breaks. This is obviously a great idea...take away most of the risk of a valve meeting a piston in the event of a main spring failure.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I was told when I asked this awhile ago <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? I would listen to Chris.. He use to have a blower car.. With the right head and cam package you will be around 600rwhp.. <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? Yes the intake valve would be open longer. 221/224 is a BABY cam, not large at all, and will be very drivable on 114LSA.
You are giving up free horsepower both from a lift and duration standpoint with the other cam. There will be little or no drivability difference between the two cams either.
A note on the double spring issue. Cars running boost need to run a slightly heavier spring as boosted cars are more prone to valve float. (Boost pushes up on the valve and effectively reduces spring effectiveness.)
the double springs also eliminate or GREATLY reduce the problem of spring breakage seen by some of the single springs like the 941s.
Again the .566 lift is also great especially on the exhaust side if you have a lot of exhaust work done on the heads and the flow numbers above 550 lift are good.
Hope this helps,
Chris
You are giving up free horsepower both from a lift and duration standpoint with the other cam. There will be little or no drivability difference between the two cams either.
A note on the double spring issue. Cars running boost need to run a slightly heavier spring as boosted cars are more prone to valve float. (Boost pushes up on the valve and effectively reduces spring effectiveness.)
the double springs also eliminate or GREATLY reduce the problem of spring breakage seen by some of the single springs like the 941s.
Again the .566 lift is also great especially on the exhaust side if you have a lot of exhaust work done on the heads and the flow numbers above 550 lift are good.
Hope this helps,
Chris
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? [quote]Originally posted by Tums:
<strong>HEHEHEHE I like the MUSTANG CAM pic. LMAO <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks, I've been waiting for somebody to notice it. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Well, in case anyone is interested, I went ahead and gave the guy a deposit. I'm on the schedule for mid-April...
<strong>HEHEHEHE I like the MUSTANG CAM pic. LMAO <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks, I've been waiting for somebody to notice it. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Well, in case anyone is interested, I went ahead and gave the guy a deposit. I'm on the schedule for mid-April...
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Re: I'm ready to pull the trigger, what do you think of this cam? Thanks for the tips, Chris and O2BQIK. I'm going to print this one out, take it to the shop, and see what he thinks. I already gave him my credit card info for a deposit, but I don't think he's actually ordered the stuff yet. We'll see on Monday...