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Old 01-13-2007, 07:51 PM
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TR224/224, cheaTR cam, or ask shops. Sounds like you need a custom cam dude. You can get the duration and lift you want and get closer to a 114 LSA (semi smooth idle), or you could just say screw it and go hardcore and look bad *** @ every light!!!
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Originally Posted by thedreamer
i forget to tell u that the car is daily drive and i don't want it too rough idle
lol then you better re*phrase the question because you won't be happy
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actually lobe seperation does not directly affect the lope of a cam......overlap affects the lope of a cam; however, lobe seperation does have a direct relationship with overlap......

To find overlap you simply add the duration of the intake and exhaust together, divide by four (4), subtract lobe seperation (LSA), and multiply by two (2).

Take for instance these 4 cams:
My first custom cam 224/224 .581/.581 108lsa has 8* of overlap decent lope
Thunder's 224 cam 224/224 .563/.563 112lsa has 0* of overlap little to no lope
Thunder's Trex cam 242/248 .608/.612 110lsa has 25* of overlap heavy lope
my current cam which is as big as I believe will fit in a stock head stock valved motor witout flycutting has 29* of overlap extreme lope

I daily drive my car and have no issues with anything.....I have a friend whos cam has 34* of overlap and has problems breaking due to low vaccum. I hope this helps in determining lope and drivability.....
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Thanks a lot guys
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Originally Posted by supersix
actually lobe seperation does not directly affect the lope of a cam......overlap affects the lope of a cam; however, lobe seperation does have a direct relationship with overlap......

To find overlap you simply add the duration of the intake and exhaust together, divide by four (4), subtract lobe seperation (LSA), and multiply by two (2).

Take for instance these 4 cams:
My first custom cam 224/224 .581/.581 108lsa has 8* of overlap decent lope
Thunder's 224 cam 224/224 .563/.563 112lsa has 0* of overlap little to no lope
Thunder's Trex cam 242/248 .608/.612 110lsa has 25* of overlap heavy lope
my current cam which is as big as I believe will fit in a stock head stock valved motor witout flycutting has 29* of overlap extreme lope

I daily drive my car and have no issues with anything.....I have a friend whos cam has 34* of overlap and has problems breaking due to low vaccum. I hope this helps in determining lope and drivability.....
if the overlap 0 means its smooth

what about cheater cam 214+230/4-117*2 = -12 is it smooth also
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trex or a MS4 are going to be the biggest cams that will fit in a stock engine.
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Originally Posted by thedreamer
if the overlap 0 means its smooth

what about cheater cam 214+230/4-117*2 = -12 is it smooth also
Yes very smooth, it has negative overlap. The stock cam has negative overlap.
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so which number is rough idle
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Daily Driving a big cam is all in the tune. I DD my car and it is very driveable because it has a really good tune.
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yeah after driving the trex for a while its not as bad as some people make it out to be and can definatly be daily driven (mine wasn't even tuned), its just not going to be as smooth as some of the other smaller cam choices.
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Originally Posted by new_z
or you could just say screw it and go hardcore and look bad *** @ every light!!!
I just want to look badass in my driveway... havnt gotten that far yet!
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Originally Posted by thedreamer
so which number is rough idle
I have 10 degrees overlap and it has a nice lopey idle, not too much, I like it.
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Originally Posted by bad95killer
The biggest Camshaft + DD = NO WAY

peace

HA! I DD my Rex with 3.42s!! 6Spd 17MPG too.
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LOL may be a smartazz remark but..... my answer is sell it get a 4 banger or get with the program and go big cam & big stall or big cam and spec clutch and learn to drive it hard and fast they way we all do lol ........ " just a joke " but a very good point
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Originally Posted by SLOW02LS1LOL
LOL may be a smartazz remark but..... my answer is sell it get a 4 banger or get with the program and go big cam & big stall or big cam and spec clutch and learn to drive it hard and fast they way we all do lol ........ " just a joke " but a very good point

It is kind of a funny post. Biggest cam possible, smooth idle and good driveability really dont all go in the same sentence.
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Ha ha I had to laugh we start with "I want the biggest cam for the LS1" to " Not to big as i need it to idle great for dd" to a baby 224/224 cam!!!!!

Good thread!!

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Originally Posted by SLPSS99
Ha ha I had to laugh we start with "I want the biggest cam for the LS1" to " Not to big as i need it to idle great for dd" to a baby 224/224 cam!!!!!

Good thread!!

Dan
i meant how big can i get a cam for DD and little rough idle but for stock engine
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I run my 242/248 .625 on a 113 LSA as a daily driver with no problems at all, didn't flycut the pistons until the heads were modded, have never had a problem with driveability, sounds like a ******* prostocker/nascar coming down the street. Idles very well, very nasty...kind of like **** sex with a racing gas lube.....
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Originally Posted by Nedermeyer
Idles very well, very nasty...kind of like **** sex with a racing gas lube.....
Someone spends a little too much time by his cars tailpipe.


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