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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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How in Bejesus do you get the damn thing off? Am I doing something wrong?

I am at the tail end of a Heads/Cam/Headers/Intake/blah blah blah install and the only thing that is holding up the show is that damn bolt ( <img border="0" alt="[guns]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> CRANK BOLT).

There seems to be too much play in the drive to get decent tension on the thing. I am using a breaker bar in connection with a 2' piece of pipe, and I run out of room before I can put some *** on it.

Any masters of the crank bolt please chime in.

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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Pull the 2 13mm bolts of of the starter and put a screwdriver in 1 of the hole for the flywheel while somebody turns the crank bolt.The screwdriver should wedge up against the block and give you plenty of tension.
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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You, plain and simple, are a genius. <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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1/2 inch air gun <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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i jus air gunned mine right off in not even 5 seconds hehe <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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I just love the topic's name <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I remember coming up with a couple new word combos when I was trying to get that !#@#$ 1#@@!$$4 !@#!@$$@! !@$#@$@#% @$#$@@#$@$^%$&% bolt off <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

LAter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ooblockxburneroo:
<strong>i jus air gunned mine right off in not even 5 seconds hehe <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That long? Mine was off in 2-3 seconds with the air gun <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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I've heard many horror stories about a tough crank bolt.

The FIRST thing I do before I attempt my heads/cam install is to get the crank bolt loosened up by a friend with an impact.
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 07:40 AM
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Shoot I had no problem. I happened to have my clutch out so I chained the flywheel to the body of the car. I had a small link chain and put a flywheel bolt through it and into the flywheel, then to the body of the car. Then I used a four foot pipe as a cheater bar over the socket wrench.
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 09:42 AM
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The torque spec on that bolt is 250 ft lbs. Thas why it is so tough to get off.
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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on my old poncho 455, you could put the pull handle on...lay it against the frame or the ground...bump the starter and VOILA!!
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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I do not have ***** big enough to try that.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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Old Mar 18, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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I sprinkled a bit of Holy water on my crank bolt and it came loose without any problems. <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 10:39 AM
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I put mine in 4th gear and engaged the e-brake.

There was a lot of driveline slack, about 1/4 turn, but was able to find room to twist.

Are you using a 6pt or 12pt socket?
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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I just did this yesterday on my V6.

I removed the cover to the converter (Forget what its called).. the plate.. and put a screw driver in there.. the tip was under the converter center, and the end was ontop of one of the converter mounting links.. this prevented the converter from twisting past the motor.

I used 12pt socket with a 3' heavy breaker bar.. I had to use a LOT of force to get it to crack just a mm.. I braced myself against the wheel and just pulled VERY hard.
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cablebandit:
<strong>on my old poncho 455, you could put the pull handle on...lay it against the frame or the ground...bump the starter and VOILA!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How long did you have the cast on afterwards? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Old Mar 19, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Im in the middle of a cam swap right now, I used an impact on mine and it wouldnt come off. we ended up using a 2 ft breaker bar with me pushing and my frind pulling and that got it..

I have a great impact gun <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong>I put mine in 4th gear and engaged the e-brake.

There was a lot of driveline slack, about 1/4 turn, but was able to find room to twist.

Are you using a 6pt or 12pt socket?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was using a 6pt socket. I finally gave up on the conventional methods of getting this thing off. This weekend I will be spending some quality time with my car and an air gun. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NoGo:
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I was using a 6pt socket. I finally gave up on the conventional methods of getting this thing off. This weekend I will be spending some quality time with my car and an air gun. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I bet that was the difference in your ability to get a bite ...

I used a 12pt ans was able to increment around the nut to get a full bite on it, because of all the DL slack.
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 11:48 AM
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Anybody know where I can by the flywheel holding tool that bolts in place of the starter?

Is this tool LS1 specific?

Eric
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