JS

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I gotta tell u though I wish Joe or any of u guys wouldve told Dennis that he was wrong for saying things like that?When I came into a post of Joes and attacked him u guys would be all over me telling me to cool it.I raelized it was wrong and stopped it.

I still dont know whats wrong with seeing a dyno sheet or 2?Joe is making a good showing on the setups he's been working on.
I wanted to see the darn dyno sheets.I would think everyone would wanna see them?

I will say this,I have no beef with Dennis.I dont know why he had to say those things?It showed immaturity on his part.Especailly after Joe came into the shop 2 weeks ago and worked out our differences or so I thought?

Joe can u elaborate on why u wouldnt ask Dennis to stop the ****?U did come into the shop.I thought everything was cool.Then u take a shot at me?Dennis takes a shot at me?Whats that about man?I felt bad about your mother in law and told u to tell Tracy her Mom was in my prayers.Now the nonsense?

I mean Bear had his car on the track for maybe 5 runs and is having some issues.
Did I come in and knock the setup?I know he'll run the numbers for sure.Just like I will too.It takes alittle time to DIAL IN A CAR.So why the BS?

I like bear and think he is a stand up guy as is Mike M.They're real people.They dont make up BS like Dennis or even get involved in the crap?I just dont undertand it?

JS

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Nemisis

Hey Joe how are you feeling lately? Well can't wait to get that pcm plugged in and see what the car will really do. Out of all honesty how much hp do you think I will get from the retuning, just to anxious to wait. BTW this is Shane from New Mexico. I'm hoping for at leat another 40rwhp from the tuning and shift points. That would put me close to 11's up here at about 114-115. I get a vacation in July so I was thinking of running in Houston and see what it does there.

The Alchemist

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JS stop crying. Unlike other places, Joe uses dyno's for tuning purposed only. Who cares if it makes 360 or 460 rwhp?

All I know is my 375rwhp pushed me to a 12.2 @ 117 on all season tires, 3.42s and stock clutch. That's more than some people can say about 440rwhp or even 400rwhp. Dyno sheets don't mean DICK.

JPR

Erin! Daves car is a Black 2001 Formula with no T tops and cloth interior and no TCC, BUT it has a huge sterio system in the trunk <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> We just finished as much editing as I can do for now before his dyno session and to be honest with you , we had to raise the idle, it began to roll funny with the AC on, so it got bumped up 75 RPM.

JS,
(1) First, if you want to know about Dyno sheets, you know the places where I dyno and you can ask them at anytime what we have been turning there, That shop owner is or was your friend, so why call me out on sheets? It's real funny, because you know the truth about what we have been doing lately so why ask me publicly? I will have some more sheets to post if YOU want me to by the end of the week, it's kind of a waste of my time posting them and I don't sit here and worry about posting every car that comes out of here I don't have the time or need to post 6 H/C packages/cars that we have just finished over the past 6 weeks alone, anyway, there already mentioned in there packages unless my customers want to put them up for YOU. Plain and simple , your on a fishing expedition and this is a waste of typing for me at this point. Don't play coy with me. We have dyno appts booked for the rest of the month and I am getting better with edit but I am not going to post every darn car I do and half my customers from this forum don't even post how they have done because they know that your ready to come into there threads and play kill joy. I saw you recently just gave a thumbs up to an S1 guys dyno sheet, but you forgot to tell him whats going to happen to all that 380 RWH once he puts in 4:10 gears, thats you usual MO.

(2) I have no control what Dennis says, he is a big boy and speaks for himself.

(3) I have an S1 car with stock gears and weight that runs 1 MPH less than your final trap speed so save the "dyno peak power" speech. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that, your probably not tuned in yet.

(4) Yea, Bears car has issues, 1, it's a cam of unknown quantity, 2, SLP LT headers with CATS (you know what results are when you replace them with Macs) 3, It is a very heavy car, sway bar stock wheels and everything I don't remember the weight, but I think it was 3,780 without driver? 4, trans is shot and the posi unit has been shot before we even brought it to the track. You can bust on it all you want, but it still dynoed in decent. Even with all that working against it, it still pulls the wheels up off the starting line.

There is alot of Irony in this subject matter posted above (if you knew what it was, you would treat that person very differently) I laugh reading half this stuff! I just wanted to post how Daves package ran on the street with the 224 / 112 cam, (Topical content) I am a firm believer that this is definatly the largest cam I will use for a while. Although I have nothing against 228 or 229's.

Stay tunned this week for more of "....As The Dyno Turns..."

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Terry Burger

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If you have a car that has a lot of gear or stall, the 229 cam can work well. I picked up .2ths over my 224 cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

JS

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Joe I take offense to this post.
Will u answer the questons at hand.

1.Did u come to my shop 2 weeks ago?
2.Did we talk and laugh and straighten the nonsense out?
3.When u left the shop was everything on the up and up?
4. Did I tell u how sorry I was for TRACY and her MOM and that she was in my prayers and I was hoping she beats the cancer?

Now u come in here and say I'm on a fish hunt.Dude your wrong.I'm sorry that u feel this way but it wasnt a fish hunt.I was TRUELY impressed with the results of your latest dyno figures.

Joe I quote FACTS....
I have the QUICKEST JPR car to date 11.43
NOT ONE OF YOUR NEW S2 setups have beaten my old time.

U dont have ONE AUTOMATIC LS1 H/C car in the US running 120 traps speeds.

Not one of your NEW S2 H/C car have beaten my new setup 11.29 either.And my car went 120.08 with ME driving FWIW.

U knock my setup after 1 time at the track
But fail to rember the 1st time we ran YOUR setup on my car.It only went .05 faster than my cam only runs?But u and I worked at it and got the car to run 11.40's.Thats called DIALING a car in.

I'm speachless over your post.
JD's told me u said NO ONE can see my dyno numbers?So who's lying U or JD's?

Joe I see u r just as 2 faced as I was when i was knocking u.U come to my work act all nicey nice and then come on here and try to make me look bad.Whats up with that?

I'm done trying to kiss your ***.I was wrong and was a man about it and told u I was sorry.I have no problem with u or anyone u socialize with.Good luck with your projects.I thought we got threw this mess and see u dont wanna let it go.

I WILL NOT POST IN ANY JPR THREADS AGAIN.YOUR PARANOID.....

Very upset
JS

Sears

Great setup Joe! I agree, the cam is very docile on the street. You have some strong running cars lately. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
Let me know how it does at the track/dyno...

Justin

jfm

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How many of JPR's cars are race set up?

Suspension,weight deleted,big stall and geared.

I wonder what my light,Yanked 4400 would run with a Thunder cam and Stage 2 JPR set up?

It went 11.62/115.44 stock internals.Never been on a dyno,always track tested mods.

I just might try a set up like that.

Joe,As The Dyno Turns,LOL.

JPR

JS,
You started all this, anyone with half a brain can go back to the begining and read how this thread evolved.

Question #1 Yes, upon your invite if I was ever in the area.
#2 I thought so, I even told you I found how to disable the abuse mode in the Z06's before you even told me.
#3 Evidently not, after you 2nd or third post here luring sheets out of JPR. (check you E-mail)
#4 Yes, but WTF does that mean? I told you constanty how I felt about your mom (may she rest in peace) and called you even when I wasn't comfortable talking to you just to check up on your mom.

"Joe I quote FACTS....
I have the QUICKEST JPR car to date 11.43
NOT ONE OF YOUR NEW S2 setups have beaten my old time."

No, 10.74 in a different S2 catagory, Bob hasn't even ran yet on his S2 full out race platform. My S2's are literally brand new and some of my customers haven't either had the time or the components (roll cages or M&T's)to run past that old mark yet or get to the track at all, and to correct your time quote, I believe it was an 11.36 or 8?.

"U knock my setup after 1 time at the track
But fail to rember the 1st time we ran YOUR setup on my car.It only went .05 faster than my cam only runs?But u and I worked at it and got the car to run 11.40's.Thats called DIALING a car in."

JS, I never knocked your set-up untill tonight, everyone else was and I had full faith it would bust 10's with you driving the first time out, I mean I did the math and you added 60+RWH that should have put you well in there, and Yes I forgot about another S1 at your weight that runs 119.89 7.4 at 94.86 half track, just give it some time and you will see our S2's comming out.

"I'm speachless over your post.
JD's told me u said NO ONE can see my dyno numbers?So who's lying U or JD's?"

I don't know what your talking about with JD's, and I also dyno at LaRoccas too.

"Joe I see u r just as 2 faced as I was when i was knocking u.U come to my work act all nicey nice and then come on here and try to make me look bad.Whats up with that?"

I never tried to make you look bad, I always retalliate on an equal playing field.

"I WILL NOT POST IN ANY JPR THREADS AGAIN.YOUR PARANOID....."

Heard that before but, Thanks anyway.

BTW, Your old S1 heads were the second set I ever did.

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JPR

JFM.

"How many of JPR's cars are race set up?

Suspension,weight deleted,big stall and geared."

The answer is no S2's, they are all in street trim and gears, My S2's are brand new, the last one ran 11.90 at 116.00 in full weight WS6, stock converter, tires,gears,wheels. And I have 3 sets that are being installed within this week or so.

"I wonder what my light,Yanked 4400 would run with a Thunder cam and Stage 2 JPR set up?"

The answer is 10's with no problem. Drop me an E-mail when your ready.

Brien,

"All I know is my 375rwhp pushed me to a 12.2 @ 117 on all season tires, 3.42s and stock clutch. That's more than some people can say about 440rwhp or even 400rwhp. Dyno sheets don't mean DICK. "

I will meet you at JD's this week when I am there to tune your car in for you , i know your at 12.2 to 12.5 on the wide band, you have more left in it.
Joe.

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Sears

What is the Comp ratio on your S2s??

jfm

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That is what I suspected.

We all race by the laws of physics.

Heavy car at 400 HP = slower than light car at 400 HP.

I need an anti-gravity mod.LOL

I have to say how well yor set up runs in Mikes Vortec car.Damn,he has no cut out on it and bad trans when he ran.

Good tranny,cut out and JPR water pump,I will be there to see it run a new much lower ET.

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JPR

Jsears8,
My new S2's are only 10.5 compression, I know, it sounds a little low and I do have a theory, but I saw what I did with 10.3 on the S1's (over 119 mph with 218 cams)and I was very happy with that. At this point, I am not impressed yet with the higher compression ratios like 11.x and higher so I am going to have to gradually grow into those numbers just like I grew into the S2 heads. I have an S2 224 car that we are going to post soon that breaks all the rules in that respect....stay tuned for another episode of ...As the Dyno Turns...

mike m

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hey JFM we will take west hampton by storm with 2 jpr 10 sec. cars <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

JS

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Tom I aked a question and got attacked.Joe is getting very paranoid.Talk to him buddy.I was truely happy to see the results of his setups and he attacked me for no reason.I wish u the best but the BS gotta stop.

Tom,I NEVER invited him to the shop.He told me some story that he was taking his mother in law to get Kemo Treaments and was waitng for her to get done so he came by the store to bury the hatchet.Honest Tom thats the truth.

FWIW
TRACY I HOPE YOUR MOM IS DOING WELL U GUYS R IN MY PRAYERS

I'm sick of this nonsense.
I just wanna race like u do Tom.Bob is the same way.I know he just wants to race the car.
Theres no I'm better than u BS.I wish u,bob bear and mike and the rest of u best wishes.

JFM thats a good running car u got.
But your 3350lbs?

My car weighs 3616lbs
Not exactly a lightweight racecar.
Its a STOUT setup that should run 11.00's with ME driving.With a lighter guy it'll go 10's for sure.But not in this heat we've had lately.

Hell the BeaSSt came out with his car and he needed 2 months to dial her in.Now he's running 10.30's.Give me a chance.Thats all I ask.

As far as all the BS being told here,I dont want any part of it.I still say I'm the QUICKEST JPR N/A H/C car to date?

Has any of Joes customers run better than 11.43@117 with a N/A H/C package?No N20 or Blower car JUST H/C cars?

JS
Cartek S2X H/C
3616LBS/DA -110 (ME)
ET 11.29/60FT 1.49/MPH 119.18
3466LBS/DA -110 (CartekDave)
ET 11.14/60FT 1.47/MPH 121.98

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JPR

JS,
We have that covered, just wait till the end of the week Thurs or Fri night, we have the M&T's for Dennis just to get that stoopid number out of the way. So, a little bench racing... in full weight in stock trim THROUGH CATS on stock F1 tires with the S2 224 stuff yeilded 11,9's at 116 on a 2.0 60' mark with the stock converter. Now with the Vig 3600, figure the worst we get out of it is .5 tenths witch is an 11.40 right? or I just delete the cats, put MY brand new skinnies up front, drop the sway bar pull the floor mats drain the washer bottle right off the bat and that ought to get it in the 11.20's or better, I suspect better. We originally built D's car to go directly against Onyx so we wern't playing games with it, the more challanges and adversity I face the harder and better I work. as a matter of fact, why don't you bring your car out this week?

JS

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Joe at least u were man enough to admit u dont have a H/C car as of YET that beat my time.

Do I think Bear will run well----->YES
Dennis----->YES
BOB--->OOOOOOH YES

I NEVER said your ablilities were bad Joe
I said u distort the truth at times.I am upset that this has come full circle.Cant we just get past this crap.

This wasnt my intentions at all.I was happy for u and wanted to see a dyno sheet.To compare to my setup.Curiousity ,thats it.Nothing more.
U read into this BS the wrong way.

I will be at Atco on Tues testing some new ideas.If Dennis wants to race me tell him to come Tues.I cant make it friday.I have to work til 8PM

The week after that the Kmember,Hals,and a few other goodies r getting done.I hope to get 60lbs outta the car and get down to 3550lbs?
All I need to do now is lose 100lbs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

JS
Fat boy racing--->Not for long
Project lose gut is comming

<small>[ April 22, 2002, 12:10 AM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>

WS6 TransAm Girl

JS- the only reason you are catching so much smack is because you made your situation so public, and you were also doing your share of **** talking at one point. If you are happy with your setup, that's all that matters. Just ignore what you don't want to hear. If you seriously want to stop the BS'ing, just read over what you post before you post it, make sure you are wording things the way you want them to be taken. That way no one gets offended if that wasn't your intention.
As far as your diet, I think that is a great idea... best thing for your health and your heart. Who cares about how much faster you go, that's just an added benefit.

Back on topic, Joe I hope you are on the up and up... sucks being sick!! Looking forward to seeing how the Dave's formula does. Is it black or pewter? Seem to be the lucky colors <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Once I see what I can do with the 218 cam, and then add some gears, clutch, maybe a rear and seeing how it runs, I think I may go with the Thunder cam <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Don't think I have ever seen anyone unhappy with their results... just all around a good cam. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" /> And Joe, I am still waiting for my magnet!!!

Nemisis

Hey Joe, this is Shane again from New Mexico, you may not have read my post earlier in this thread but oh well. Don't sweat it, I'm sure someone in here will definitely break past a 11.43 with your S2's. Just wait until I get to run in Houston. I know I'll get at least one pass in before they kick me out.

JPR

JS

"This wasnt my intentions at all.I was happy for u and wanted to see a dyno sheet.To compare to my setup.Curiousity ,thats it.Nothing more.
U read into this BS the wrong way."

Well, why didn't you say so to begin with? BUT, I will have to caution you, dyno sheets are NEVER a direct reflection of exactly what ET the vehicle should run, you remember alot of high dynoing cars that we used to look at for comparisons sake that couldn't run a porpotional ET or MPH to there power output on the dyno in race trim.

"I will be at Atco on Tues testing some new ideas.If Dennis wants to race me tell him to come Tues.I cant make it friday.I have to work til 8PM"

Tue is not good for him and never is, I said we can be there Thurs and or Fri. But I will see if I can bring his car if he can't make it?

"Joe at least u were man enough to admit u dont have a H/C car as of YET that beat my time."

I already mentioned above why my customers haven't run that yet, if you think the people that you mentioned above is the list of all my customers, your sorely mistaken, We did 6 new cars/installs just recently, but they are either tesing, tuning and have to get there prelim runs out of the way, you don't just go from stock to S2/heads N cam on a new set-up without preparation and not only that, we have done only 2 auto high stalls to 4 sticks in the past month.

Shane, I will call you today, and we will discuss your car. I will fly out to Alb, if I have to and meet you at your dyno shop to tune you in.

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