Engine Building Question:
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Engine Building Question: Ok... gotta question (purely hypothetical for next few years)
If I were to build an LS1 from scratch for use with a super charger or turbo setup... what other than the following would I need?
1. Block
2. Heads
a. double valve springs (springs within springs)
b. hardened pushrods
c. titanium retainers
d. lifters
e. Valves
3. Forged Pistons
4. Forged Rods
5. CamShaft
6. Forged CrankShaft
7. Heavy Duty Timing Chain
8. Oil Pump (ARE)
9. All gaskets, bolts and stuff
10. Water Pump
I know there would be some small little things, but am I missing anything big?
I'm trying to determine a plan for the future.. if I should pick and choose parts myself or get an engine built by a professional engine builder.
This winter I want to do heads and cam on my car... but am leary about the parts in it now (entire engine is stock).... I want the power but if I am at too much of a risk of breaking a rod, or valve float or snapping my crank shaft, id rather do it the best one right away instead of waiting for stuff to break.
I have a race prepped transmission from Speed Inc in the car now, and will be getting a 12 bolt rearend this winter.. so it's time to start planning for the engine.
If I were to build an LS1 from scratch for use with a super charger or turbo setup... what other than the following would I need?
1. Block
2. Heads
a. double valve springs (springs within springs)
b. hardened pushrods
c. titanium retainers
d. lifters
e. Valves
3. Forged Pistons
4. Forged Rods
5. CamShaft
6. Forged CrankShaft
7. Heavy Duty Timing Chain
8. Oil Pump (ARE)
9. All gaskets, bolts and stuff
10. Water Pump
I know there would be some small little things, but am I missing anything big?
I'm trying to determine a plan for the future.. if I should pick and choose parts myself or get an engine built by a professional engine builder.
This winter I want to do heads and cam on my car... but am leary about the parts in it now (entire engine is stock).... I want the power but if I am at too much of a risk of breaking a rod, or valve float or snapping my crank shaft, id rather do it the best one right away instead of waiting for stuff to break.
I have a race prepped transmission from Speed Inc in the car now, and will be getting a 12 bolt rearend this winter.. so it's time to start planning for the engine.
Re: Engine Building Question: How much money do you have?
If ou want a H/C package then you don't need all of this stuff. The stock bottom end is really good.
A turbo or blower motor is a whole different game.
Forged Pistons and Rods are a definate on a 550+hp engine. For the Turbo and Supercharger setup. If you know alot about what you are doing then get the parts yourself, if not and if you can afford it then pay someone. (like lingenfelter or MMS any other sponsor)
If you are doing a Vortec type blower or turbo then most of these things like heads and cam will really help. If you are doing a supercharger like the lingenfelter one that they have for the vette the heads cam are really not going to gain you that much at all.
For parts on a turbo or supercharger.
Ported 6.0L head should be very usefull to get some lower compression for a boosted engine.
I would not go to crazy on the block and bottom end. Maybe a small overbore, nothing crazy! Forged rods, pistons and a stock preped crank.
A cam made for the blower or turbo setup and all the normal high out put things that you mentioned like b,c,d,e,7,8,9,10.
Like I sai I would use what you have now and throw a heads cam on that and build another engine just for the next setup. A N/A engine is a much different beast.
Bret
If ou want a H/C package then you don't need all of this stuff. The stock bottom end is really good.
A turbo or blower motor is a whole different game.
Forged Pistons and Rods are a definate on a 550+hp engine. For the Turbo and Supercharger setup. If you know alot about what you are doing then get the parts yourself, if not and if you can afford it then pay someone. (like lingenfelter or MMS any other sponsor)
If you are doing a Vortec type blower or turbo then most of these things like heads and cam will really help. If you are doing a supercharger like the lingenfelter one that they have for the vette the heads cam are really not going to gain you that much at all.
For parts on a turbo or supercharger.
Ported 6.0L head should be very usefull to get some lower compression for a boosted engine.
I would not go to crazy on the block and bottom end. Maybe a small overbore, nothing crazy! Forged rods, pistons and a stock preped crank.
A cam made for the blower or turbo setup and all the normal high out put things that you mentioned like b,c,d,e,7,8,9,10.
Like I sai I would use what you have now and throw a heads cam on that and build another engine just for the next setup. A N/A engine is a much different beast.
Bret
