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Old 02-04-2007, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
just be forewarned.... alot of people tell you " oh with a good tune it will be fine"

$500 says I can get it to run/drive really good You can't tune it closed loop/MAF though -and expect it to drive perfect. SD -you can.
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might be something i need to check into,thanks.
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A lot fo the guys that tell you that with a good tune it will be fine are right. The ones that dont havent had a good tuner. I dd my MS4 in a heavy GTO. Drives like stock. I ahit you not. The power loss untill 2400 RPM is a little noticeable. But who races or goes WOT in that range anyway. My only gripe is the lack of pulling power in 6th on the highway doing 80. Other than that I love it. I have no traction in first nor second. Plus the cam that you chase will have plenty of power under the curve like Patrick stated. So you have a lighter car than I do and your cam will have better dcr than me. I say do it. The car will run like a raped goat.
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Originally Posted by caviness
i also want to do 150 shot,what you consider tamer but still mean as hell.
If you're gonna spray it I'd run somethig with a little wider lsa then that, granted there are people that do spray on trex cams... I'd go around 113 lsa if you are gonna spray it. same cam but around that lsa would probably work very well with nitrous. remember nitrous creates a ton of cyl. pressure, especially at lower rpm's, you get something with too high a dcr and your stock bottom end really isn't gona be around too long.
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It is like a G5x3 on steroids with a tight lsa. Nice for the proper combo. I wouldn't put it on any head that flows less than 320cfm at .650 with at least a 70% exhaust flow percentage.
High lift lifters, thick p-rods and roller tip rockers with the right springs a must. That valvetrain will need some serious control. (Heck a girdle would be nice)
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damn i might have to wait till i rebuild my motor for that cam,but i belive i want it.
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i think some tfs 215s end of year,along with forged bottom end,then we see what she do with this bad *** cam. goal mid 6s 1/8 mile or better on motor then spray it.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
$500 says I can get it to run/drive really good You can't tune it closed loop/MAF though -and expect it to drive perfect. SD -you can.
how does the car react with weather change with SD tune.i drive my car year round sometimes its 10* in winter 100* in summer. you think it wont run good down low around town with MAF tune?
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Originally Posted by caviness
how does the car react with weather change with SD tune.i drive my car year round sometimes its 10* in winter 100* in summer. you think it wont run good down low around town with MAF tune?
A SD tune, done properly, will allow for all sorts of weather changes and driving situations. This is the only way Daimler Chrysler tunes their vehicles from the factory so that must tell you that if it's good enough for an OEM (who must get the best fuel economy along with the lowest emissions possible in all climates) then it should be good enough for you!
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all right that helped alot,sounds like SD is the way to go.better all the way around.thanks for the info Patrick G and ill be getting that donkey cam around fall of the year,and supporting mods. right now i want to see what this cam you spected for me last summer can do.i need more money for supporting mods with the big cam,you know forged bottom,top of the line heads.

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this is close to the cam I got. mines 235/242 112+2 LSK int./XER exh. lobe being the biggest difference.

I had to cut both int. and exh. notch's, but now I have plenty of room. if you get that cam on 110+4 it'll be even closer, requiring deeper reliefs. but if the reliefs start to look like they will need to be too deep, you could always retard the cam with an adj. timing set. my clearance should be around .100 both valves. will know for sure once I get the heads bolted back on, and measure for pushrods and have the correct lifters in place. I did my clearance testing so far with "solid" epoxy filled stockers, which obviously put the pushrod higher out of the block due to 0 preload (the lifter plunger is all the way up, so add around .080" clearance to my measurements in the clay test.), incorrect length pushrods (I think), and the old stock .052" head gaskets.

for now, Im goin to use my stock heads that I ported. see how that goes. start saving immediatly for some TFS heads/roller rockers. I am goin to use the new platinum springs and shim them to 1.80" installed height.

and I know it can be tuned to idle like a performance car should idle. lopey, but very consistent. this car will only be driven for fun.

go for it man.
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thats bascally what i want to have some fun,if i wont serious id get an auto.
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Thats a big cam with monster lift. My 234/240 +4 112 lsa .637 641 drives ok but not great at low speed low rpms 11:1 compression with Edelbrock heads.
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did TSP port your heads? bout how do they flow? what kind of times you getting out of that car? looks about the same as Im goin to have exc. the rear end and ofcourse the heads. what CC are those heads? I got mine down to around 61cc and a .040 cometic to come up with 11:1 scr.
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holy crap that is a lot of lift... what valve sring do you expect to run? and how long do you expect it to live?
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Originally Posted by Irocss85
did TSP port your heads? bout how do they flow? what kind of times you getting out of that car? looks about the same as Im goin to have exc. the rear end and ofcourse the heads. what CC are those heads? I got mine down to around 61cc and a .040 cometic to come up with 11:1 scr.
Re-read the thread and his sig.
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i think he was talking to 99BlancoSS.
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Originally Posted by caviness
i think he was talking to 99BlancoSS.
ahh, gocha.
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yeah I was. trying to get some feedback from someone with a similar cam and see how his results are.

blanco, do you have a flow sheet for the heads? dyno #s? any track times? how do you like it on the street? how does that setup respond to nitrous?

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