325 HP after cam'd LS6 Sawp!?
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1- WTF are you doing? (no that is too harsh)
OK start again,
1- Maybe you might want to avoid that dealership. They've allready done enough.
2- Perhaps you might want to take your ride to a competent LSx shop.
3- Put some headers and this thing.
4- Put some SLP 1.85 rockers (or comp magnums)
5- Get anothe LS6 intake.
6- Get a real tune, surging with 2* overlap cam, come on !!!
7- Redyno again and get some smile on that face.
OK start again,
1- Maybe you might want to avoid that dealership. They've allready done enough.
2- Perhaps you might want to take your ride to a competent LSx shop.
3- Put some headers and this thing.
4- Put some SLP 1.85 rockers (or comp magnums)
5- Get anothe LS6 intake.
6- Get a real tune, surging with 2* overlap cam, come on !!!
7- Redyno again and get some smile on that face.
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Stealerships are not the place to get your car worked on. Please take my word for it. I had a new engine put in mine, warranty covered it. They took my beautiful, solid, 50,000 mile, ZERO problem car (other than the blown motor of course, broken spring caused it) and I got it back (over a month later) and after two years of sorting out all the bugs I've nearly got it back to how it should be. F*cked up wiring harness, loose bolts...my tranny brace only had 1 bolt in it when I got it back, the tune was all f'd up...I've had weird rattles and noises since I got it back...STAY AWAY FROM DEALERSHIPS. (WESELOH HUMMER/CHEVROLET in Carlsbad, California)
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Suppoting mods are always required, intake setup, intake manifold, exhaust, and from the cat back and tune to those mods. Seeing a similar ESP grind like 224/228 with nearly 600" lift on a 113 LSA putting down on a stock headed 01 t/a ws6 with a 6 speed, moser 12 bolt, headers and supporting mods did low 400's you have a auto with a mild stall, I am sure it dyno's like a pig. But you were able to get a 3.5k pull, better then most people.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
1- WTF are you doing? (no that is too harsh)
OK start again,
1- Maybe you might want to avoid that dealership. They've allready done enough.
2- Perhaps you might want to take your ride to a competent LSx shop.
3- Put some headers and this thing.
4- Put some SLP 1.85 rockers (or comp magnums)
5- Get anothe LS6 intake.
6- Get a real tune, surging with 2* overlap cam, come on !!!
7- Redyno again and get some smile on that face.
OK start again,
1- Maybe you might want to avoid that dealership. They've allready done enough.
2- Perhaps you might want to take your ride to a competent LSx shop.
3- Put some headers and this thing.
4- Put some SLP 1.85 rockers (or comp magnums)
5- Get anothe LS6 intake.
6- Get a real tune, surging with 2* overlap cam, come on !!!
7- Redyno again and get some smile on that face.
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Yes, the stock LS1 manifolds/intake are THAT restrictive. If your stock LS1 hit 325 with an automatic, you had a factory freak, those numbers are above average (ESPECIALLY for a pre-01, since you mentioned you had an LS1 intake).
The headers ill not fix your surging, that is a tuning issue most likely (assumming you don't have a vacuum leak or anyting similar).
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I understand that a dealership is not the place to have LSX cars worked on, but my extended warranty paid for the install and labor, so I can not really complain and I pretty much overwatched the complete swap.
I am just trying to figure all this out, I do not know to much about all this... learning as all this goes along.
So I need headers, got that covered.
Need to have the car's tune adjusted, should I have the tuner use a stock LS6 file and go from there or continue using the current file?
I am just trying to figure all this out, I do not know to much about all this... learning as all this goes along.
So I need headers, got that covered.
Need to have the car's tune adjusted, should I have the tuner use a stock LS6 file and go from there or continue using the current file?
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Ok so I am going to do the headers, but first I am going to fix the mess of a PCV system I have.
So when the dealership put back on my LS1 intake, they also put the LS1 valley cover on. Also they put a new LS1 PCV system on and plugged the extra line that would of gone into the LS1 passenger side valve cover...
Well I still have the LS6 valley so I am going to put that back on and tell me if this sounds right... I am going to yank the LS1 PCV system off... plug the driver side vavle cover and connect a line from the LS6 valley cover to the TB? Should I put a breather on the driver side vavle cover or plug it?
Also what in the hell does the stock LS6 PCV system look like... if the valley goes into the TB then what goes from the driverside vavle cover?
I think may solve some of my surging and idling problems?
So when the dealership put back on my LS1 intake, they also put the LS1 valley cover on. Also they put a new LS1 PCV system on and plugged the extra line that would of gone into the LS1 passenger side valve cover...
Well I still have the LS6 valley so I am going to put that back on and tell me if this sounds right... I am going to yank the LS1 PCV system off... plug the driver side vavle cover and connect a line from the LS6 valley cover to the TB? Should I put a breather on the driver side vavle cover or plug it?
Also what in the hell does the stock LS6 PCV system look like... if the valley goes into the TB then what goes from the driverside vavle cover?
I think may solve some of my surging and idling problems?
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Originally Posted by 7th Darkness
Ok so I am going to do the headers, but first I am going to fix the mess of a PCV system I have.
So when the dealership put back on my LS1 intake, they also put the LS1 valley cover on. Also they put a new LS1 PCV system on and plugged the extra line that would of gone into the LS1 passenger side valve cover...
Well I still have the LS6 valley so I am going to put that back on and tell me if this sounds right... I am going to yank the LS1 PCV system off... plug the driver side vavle cover and connect a line from the LS6 valley cover to the TB? Should I put a breather on the driver side vavle cover or plug it?
So when the dealership put back on my LS1 intake, they also put the LS1 valley cover on. Also they put a new LS1 PCV system on and plugged the extra line that would of gone into the LS1 passenger side valve cover...
Well I still have the LS6 valley so I am going to put that back on and tell me if this sounds right... I am going to yank the LS1 PCV system off... plug the driver side vavle cover and connect a line from the LS6 valley cover to the TB? Should I put a breather on the driver side vavle cover or plug it?
Also what in the hell does the stock LS6 PCV system look like... if the valley goes into the TB then what goes from the driverside vavle cover?
I think may solve some of my surging and idling problems?
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Originally Posted by 7th Darkness
Ok so headers are coming.
I have a tune, or umm I would not be able to keep an idle ^
I have a tune, or umm I would not be able to keep an idle ^
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They have you pointed in the right direction, except I disagree with whoever said to get 1.85 rockers.
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Ok so I am getting headers, how much louder does the exhuast get without cats? I do not want it to get any louder than it is already?? I was surprised on the noise level increase from the cam... do not want any louder.
I was thinking about getting some of your average LT's with a Y pipe.. no cats... or stock ones depending on the level of noise. And yeah I know I need to get rid of the flowmasters, but I like the sound from them, but may need to change if its gets any louder. Get rid of the egr/air and hopefully unlock some serious held back HP.
And yes the idle would not hold after the cam install, match'd up with a 3000 rpm stall...def idle issues. Would start up then just die, would not even try to find a new idle, even after an idle relearn. But I still need to have my tune adjusted, something still is not right.
I was thinking about getting some of your average LT's with a Y pipe.. no cats... or stock ones depending on the level of noise. And yeah I know I need to get rid of the flowmasters, but I like the sound from them, but may need to change if its gets any louder. Get rid of the egr/air and hopefully unlock some serious held back HP.
And yes the idle would not hold after the cam install, match'd up with a 3000 rpm stall...def idle issues. Would start up then just die, would not even try to find a new idle, even after an idle relearn. But I still need to have my tune adjusted, something still is not right.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Why not? That cam isn't very big, should be able to hold an idle alright without tuning...
They have you pointed in the right direction, except I disagree with whoever said to get 1.85 rockers.
They have you pointed in the right direction, except I disagree with whoever said to get 1.85 rockers.