MS4 or G5x3
02-09-2007, 01:02 PM
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That x3 prolly sounds bad*ss on a 110. I bet you had to flycut w/ that tho huh? I would of thought of doing the x4 on a 110 but since it fits w/ out flycutting the way it is I wasn't going to mess with it.
02-09-2007, 02:27 PM
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So flycut. Big f'ing whoop. What part of it don't you like? Read the board. I can't find any posts of anybody having failure due to flycutting. So that excuse isn't valid. What's the other one? Cost? It's just a couple of hundred bucks. Trust me, it sucks doing a h/c install and then knowing you could've gotten a little more from it for just a couple of hundred bucks.
I say just read around. See how each cam performs. Read posts from average users - not people with a possible agenda. See what they like and dislike. See what cam has more consistency from car to car. See if anybody near you has any of these cams so you can drive one. In town and on the highway.
I honestly think that with all of the cams mentioned, they're so close in performance that it comes to choosing which one has the driving characteristics you like. A simple good or bad driver will make or break any good setup.
I say just read around. See how each cam performs. Read posts from average users - not people with a possible agenda. See what they like and dislike. See what cam has more consistency from car to car. See if anybody near you has any of these cams so you can drive one. In town and on the highway.
I honestly think that with all of the cams mentioned, they're so close in performance that it comes to choosing which one has the driving characteristics you like. A simple good or bad driver will make or break any good setup.
02-09-2007, 02:51 PM
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Flycutting just isn't something I felt like doing. I know it's not hard I just wanted something that would fit right off the bat. Thats why I went with the x4 and I'm sure I'll love it. And yes all those cams are close I was just trying to tell him why compare a cam smaller then the ms3 to it's big brother the ms4. If your gonning to compare the ms4 to something wouldn't you think he should do it to the g5x4? I have seen you on other posts and know that you spec's of ur cam so I would think you would be agrreeing with me right? IMO you can't go wrong w/ a LG cam.
02-09-2007, 03:20 PM
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Yea that is my point. Once again IMO the ms4 and x4 are "almost" the same cam w/ the x4 haveing alittle more dur. and the ms4 has alittle more lift. Thats why if you want to compare 2 cams these are the 2. Not the x3 and the ms4, now those are 2 different cams. If price is an issue ms4 is the way to go, can't be there price but as I said before the lift scared me away from it. But if thats not an issue for ya then go for. The only cammed FBody I have seen in person is a x4 car so Im basis but I would to see/hear a ms4 car sometime. To bad PA seems to have alot of ricers lol.
02-09-2007, 04:37 PM
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I flycut my pistons with the X4 because I am going to be going with a set of heads milled down to 59cc. This will give me a better DCR than a set of heads with stock size combustion chambers.
02-09-2007, 04:42 PM
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I know you don't have to flycut w/ them as they come, I just thought on a 110 you would but thats cool you didn't have to. I will just stick w/ the x4 on a 111, I would want to raise the powerband any more w/ going lower.
02-09-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Black02SLPSS
So with the MS4 or G5x3 or G5x4 with a set of 2.5 TSP 5.3 heads will i need to fly cut the pistons at all? And is there plenty of low end torque with these cams?
Also, these aren't low end cams. The X3 does pretty well because its advanced 4 degrees, but if low end (especially around town daily driving) is of primary concern, you may want to research some milder cams.
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02-09-2007, 07:30 PM
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well im lookin to swap transmissions to make it a manual in the future. One because i would prefer to have a manual trans and two cuz i would rather avoid putting a big stall in the car. Its a DD so i would just rather not have the big stall in there.
02-09-2007, 08:02 PM
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What's wrong with a big stall in a DD? Alot of people use them, including myself. If you want a tighter feeling with the stall around town go with steeper gears too.
Oh and sorry for nitpicking for .002 measurement being off. I'm used to aircraft specs and 2 thousandths off means everything is off.
Oh and sorry for nitpicking for .002 measurement being off. I'm used to aircraft specs and 2 thousandths off means everything is off.
02-09-2007, 08:23 PM
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I would personally just rather not have a big stall. Not saying there is anything wrong with a big stall dont get me wrong, just all personal preference. I know what u mean about the aircraft specs, but the inspection where i work is a damned joke but oh well.
02-09-2007, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by T'sBlack99Z28
I know you don't have to flycut w/ them as they come, I just thought on a 110 you would but thats cool you didn't have to. I will just stick w/ the x4 on a 111, I would not want to raise the powerband any more w/ going lower.
02-10-2007, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Black02SLPSS
I would personally just rather not have a big stall. Not saying there is anything wrong with a big stall dont get me wrong, just all personal preference. I know what u mean about the aircraft specs, but the inspection where i work is a damned joke but oh well.