Bad 3 to 2 shift, what's my damage?
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Bad 3 to 2 shift, what's my damage? So the other night I had the car out for the first time in a bit...
I banged 2nd while trying to hit 4th quick...I realized it very quickly and threw the clutch in instantaneously...
Well, I guess it wasn't quick enough as I got the wheel hop and soon after a nice SES light
I babied the car home and haven't really checked on it yet...
I'm figuring a bent rod?
I'm new to the M6's (had an A4 previously)
I may just order a set of Comp rods and then pull the covers and check all my rods and replace them.
Figure I'll be doing them sooner or later when I do a H/C set-up (or whatever) so why not use this as excuse to do them now?
What else could I have damaged?
I banged 2nd while trying to hit 4th quick...I realized it very quickly and threw the clutch in instantaneously...
Well, I guess it wasn't quick enough as I got the wheel hop and soon after a nice SES light
I babied the car home and haven't really checked on it yet...
I'm figuring a bent rod?
I'm new to the M6's (had an A4 previously)
I may just order a set of Comp rods and then pull the covers and check all my rods and replace them.
Figure I'll be doing them sooner or later when I do a H/C set-up (or whatever) so why not use this as excuse to do them now?
What else could I have damaged?
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I did the exactly the same thing in summer of 06. SES light came on, I can tell just by listening when I am drivig that my rear end is screwed. I have a louder hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm coming from back. Tranny is ok. I am going with a 9" and a PRO 5.0 shifter with short stick. Apparently with aftermarket shifter, I will not have that problem again.
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Guys, this same question has been asked time and time again. Check your pushrods by rolling them on a plate of glass. If the car runs rough for any reason, you may need to do a compression check to see if you possibly bent a valve. The 3-2 shift produces a mechanical over-rev that the rev limiter cannot protect the engine from.
The solution, change the way you shift. Instead of pulling the handle with your palm toward you (like the 1-2 shift), flip your hand and grasp the shifter with your palm facing the passenger side (thumb and fore-finger below the other fingers on the handle). It is not a natural movement to pull the handle towards the 2nd gear gate in this manner.
For another "ask me how I know" check your transmission mount. It happened to me one of the first times I got a highway race in my car, and the loud bang I heard was the tranny mount tearing away and allowing the tranny and torque arm to hit the floor. Fortunatley for me, that's easier to fix than even pushrods.
Good luck - hope you get a simple fix too!
The solution, change the way you shift. Instead of pulling the handle with your palm toward you (like the 1-2 shift), flip your hand and grasp the shifter with your palm facing the passenger side (thumb and fore-finger below the other fingers on the handle). It is not a natural movement to pull the handle towards the 2nd gear gate in this manner.
For another "ask me how I know" check your transmission mount. It happened to me one of the first times I got a highway race in my car, and the loud bang I heard was the tranny mount tearing away and allowing the tranny and torque arm to hit the floor. Fortunatley for me, that's easier to fix than even pushrods.
Good luck - hope you get a simple fix too!
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Originally Posted by hammertime
The solution, change the way you shift. Instead of pulling the handle with your palm toward you (like the 1-2 shift), flip your hand and grasp the shifter with your palm facing the passenger side (thumb and fore-finger below the other fingers on the handle). It is not a natural movement to pull the handle towards the 2nd gear gate in this manner.
Funny, because I normally do that
But, I was just being stupid and forgot
My rear should be fine as I'm rockin' a Moser 2 back there
I'm hoping just a rod or two, I should go get it scanned but was told I shouldn't really drive it just incase I've bent a valve...what do you guys think?
if the ses light starts flashing you have a misfire even if it stays on steady somethings up ..pop the valve covers and check all the push rods I'm sure you bent atleast one..I know I did
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This happened to me in my 98 SS back in 2001 when I was on my way to vacation to virginia beach. The car made it the whole way down and back to new york with a severely bent pushrod or two. Then once I got back, my transmission went, followed by a huge chunck breaking of the pinion gearin thre rear end. After that an exhaust spring in the motor went. And then, since i just had the pushrods replaced when it first happened, just from driving it hard a pushrod bent again because the valvesprings were too weak. And this mistake happend the second day I owened this car.
Connecting rod bolt broke and it sawed a hole through the block..catastrophic motor failure..caused by the good ol powershift from red line in third gear back into second gear... 
..the fuel shutoff or "rev limiter" will not save a motor from a massive mechanical over rev like that.. 
..the fuel shutoff or "rev limiter" will not save a motor from a massive mechanical over rev like that.. Last edited by slt200mph; Feb 17, 2007 at 02:50 PM.
holy **** that block above was screwed.....
I did this in my GTO twice now once on the track, once racing a vette (had him too until that happened).....I'm replacing heads/cam/pushrods/more.....
the car still runs fine at the moment, I'll just feel better knowing everything valvetrain wise has been replaced....and....I um,.....want to go faster anyways
I did this in my GTO twice now once on the track, once racing a vette (had him too until that happened).....I'm replacing heads/cam/pushrods/more.....
the car still runs fine at the moment, I'll just feel better knowing everything valvetrain wise has been replaced....and....I um,.....want to go faster anyways
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Originally Posted by My90Iroc
I can run a scan if you need.
Also, I figure I'll just order a new set of rods and throw them in...I'll have to do them sooner or later (h/c?) so why not use this as an excuse to do them now?
