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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Hey guys I was wondering how to go about building a budget shortblock? I know nothing is cheap, as cars are en expensive hobby!! But I like my Nitrous and am tired of being worried about it blowing up. I want to stay with an aluminum block, would like to stay around 348 ci, be around 12 to 1 compression, nice size cam ( I like big ones, with nice choppy Idle), I would be using my factory heads for now but have them cleaned up, already have springs good for .650 lift, Using a Fast 90/NW90 TB. Car is light to should be around a 3200 raceweight. As far as size of shot I would like to run a 200 shot wet kit, as I already have the TNT Twister Force 2 kit. I am a 6spd car, with a spec stage 4 clutch, and I will have a S60/9" here very soon just deciding which to get but will have a 4.30 gear. The car has a full drag style susp. front and rear QA1 coilovers, Spohn T/A, LCA, PHB, all adj. also, Prostars all around with some 28X10.5 et drags for the track and BFG drag radials for the street 275/60/15s. I would like to run mid 10s on motor and some where in the 9s on spray.

Lets here some setups thanks i advance.

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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I calculated a price of about $1300 in parts to stick forged rods and pistons into a rebuilt stock shortblock, if that helps any.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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He probably should get a LS6 block too. Tack on an additional $600 for that new. New at TSP for around 600, used is cheaper.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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Why? There's no advantage to that. It's probably worse for a big shot of spray.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Yeah I think my block should be fine. The 1300 for parts isn't to bad though, how much does machine work cost if needed for a small over bore if needed? The LS1 cranks hold up well don't they?

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Use your stock crank. You can pick up a set of Scat I-beams for 275, and Mahle pistons for 499. If you get em in a package deal, it could come out less.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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use your stock crank get some diamond pistons and a good set of forged rods as long as its tuned correctly you wont have a problem with a 200 shot
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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He probably should get a LS6 block too. Tack on an additional $600 for that new. New at TSP for around 600, used is cheaper.
Thats a complete waste of $$ the LS6 block is the same damn thing pretty much.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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So basically a good set of Forged pistons and rods and I am good to go? Anyone what a typical shop charge is to install these pieces?

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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mahle pistons with rings- 500
Scat rods with ARp rod bolts- 500
rod and main bearings- around 150
Total for internal parts- $1,150

Then add the cost of a cylinder hone/bore out plus crankshaft polishing.

Then add costs of all the other stuff you will need like new head gaskets, crank bolt, and all the other **** you will need to do the swap.
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Then add the cost of a cylinder hone/bore out plus crankshaft polishing.

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What does that typically cost?
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any others want to give there opinion?
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Don't forget you need to balance the rotating assembly as well.
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