TR "Old Man" or "Cheater" cam
TR "Old Man" or "Cheater" cam If anyone has experience & Dyno results for these cams(on a stock rear end) please post.
I was choosing between these two for my DD. It wont see the track at ALL(maybe for one 1/4 run for time). I only want around 365-380hp max. Does anyone think one of these cams or any suggested cam that could get me in this hp range?
I was choosing between these two for my DD. It wont see the track at ALL(maybe for one 1/4 run for time). I only want around 365-380hp max. Does anyone think one of these cams or any suggested cam that could get me in this hp range?
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hay bro thru my experince i had tr224 and i gain 365 only long tube headers and pullys and ram air.tr224 was the best choise i had in thunder racing for dd cam its the best choise with little loby idle sheater is verey good cam too but u well loose alot of torque in low rpm but it well give u factory idle
but if u dont mind a little loby idle i preffer tsp 228r u well get like 370 to 380hp with good tuning
but tr224 its makin verey good power too its the best for dd i got 402hp with 205 dart heads with verey bad tuning .
good luck man
but if u dont mind a little loby idle i preffer tsp 228r u well get like 370 to 380hp with good tuning
but tr224 its makin verey good power too its the best for dd i got 402hp with 205 dart heads with verey bad tuning .
good luck man
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You've got headers so the cheatR will be rougher on your valve train than you probably want on a DD. The old man is a little better but if you only want 360 to 385 I would look at TR220, comp 216 220, LS6 cam or something in that range.
OK I'll consider the TR220 & TR224 cam from Thunder(I thought it was too big for the hp range).
I did look at the LS6 cam, but couldn't find Dyno #s on it. Do I need longer push rods for the LS6 cam?
I did look at the LS6 cam, but couldn't find Dyno #s on it. Do I need longer push rods for the LS6 cam?
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yep propably u well need with ls6 but u dont want to go for it man its not much of wow cam
and tr224 is not big cam at all its street cam 100% i install it without tuning for tow month before i dyno it and its was workin well put 345 hp no tuning .
go for it and u well not gonna be disapointed.
and tr224 is not big cam at all its street cam 100% i install it without tuning for tow month before i dyno it and its was workin well put 345 hp no tuning .
go for it and u well not gonna be disapointed.
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From: Troy,MI.
Originally Posted by Wezie F Baby
If anyone has experience & Dyno results for these cams(on a stock rear end) please post.
I was choosing between these two for my DD. It wont see the track at ALL(maybe for one 1/4 run for time). I only want around 365-380hp max. Does anyone think one of these cams or any suggested cam that could get me in this hp range?
I was choosing between these two for my DD. It wont see the track at ALL(maybe for one 1/4 run for time). I only want around 365-380hp max. Does anyone think one of these cams or any suggested cam that could get me in this hp range?
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FYI, the Old Man Cam and the CheaTR use the same 215 .600" intake lobe. The CheaTR uses a larger 230 exhaust lobe and the OMC uses a smaller 222 low lift lobe. The OMC is better with headers, the CheaTR is better with manifolds.
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From: Troy,MI.
Originally Posted by Patrick G
FYI, the Old Man Cam and the CheaTR use the same 215 .600" intake lobe. The CheaTR uses a larger 230 exhaust lobe and the OMC uses a smaller 222 low lift lobe. The OMC is better with headers, the CheaTR is better with manifolds.
Like a XE or XE-R lobe.
Now I'm leaning more to the Old Man cam, but I will check on more of the TR224.
I'm stuck on TR cams cuz they're close to my house and they can do the swap for me. I guess no one on here had the OMC. I wanted to hear some SOTP comparisons.
I'm stuck on TR cams cuz they're close to my house and they can do the swap for me. I guess no one on here had the OMC. I wanted to hear some SOTP comparisons.
Originally Posted by YankeeVert.
How come they didn't use a lobe with more lift?
Like a XE or XE-R lobe.
Like a XE or XE-R lobe.
IIRC, They weren't too concerned about maximizing the exhaust lobe. I'd like to see it with thier lobe from their 220/220 cam.
Originally Posted by Blackhawk777
Random question to add into that.... Would either of those cams work on a stock PCM tune and not need a stall converter on an auto? I'm also looking into a cam sometime this summer.
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
I don't know but .600" lift with 215 degrees of duration looks like a lot of lift to me.
my cam was designed very similar to the cheatr...its a custom grind but i couldnt be happier with it as a dd. there's power at every rpm
214/230
.601/.613
112 LSA
