Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam
08-14-2002, 07:04 PM
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam Holy **** Matt those are killer numbers!! Remember that your comp ratio is not as high as others which would be worth a good bit.
Don't you have an external FPR? Maybe that is causing a problem? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Don't you have an external FPR? Maybe that is causing a problem? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam Well, if your car is getting richer with the fuel pressure dropping it will probably be extremely rich once you get the fp stabilized.
You've got a stout combo and there is definately some more left with a little more tuning once you get the fuel issue taken care of. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I would just get a stock replacement fuel filter. There real easy to replace. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> If that doesn't work, you have the fuel regulator(intank) and the fuel pump itself that could also be culprits. If you end up putting a new pump in you might want to replace the regulator at the same time. I don't think there is anything else that would cause the fp to drop but, I'm not a mechanic either. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Good luck
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<small>[ August 14, 2002, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: XLR8NSS ]</small>
You've got a stout combo and there is definately some more left with a little more tuning once you get the fuel issue taken care of. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I would just get a stock replacement fuel filter. There real easy to replace. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> If that doesn't work, you have the fuel regulator(intank) and the fuel pump itself that could also be culprits. If you end up putting a new pump in you might want to replace the regulator at the same time. I don't think there is anything else that would cause the fp to drop but, I'm not a mechanic either. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Good luck
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08-14-2002, 07:14 PM
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jsears8:
<strong>Holy **** Matt those are killer numbers!! Remember that your comp ratio is not as high as others which would be worth a good bit.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Very true. I forgot that if was at 11.8:1 vs. 10.8:1 I would easily have another 10+rwhp. Good point! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jsears8:
<strong>Don't you have an external FPR? Maybe that is causing a problem? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I used to but I took it off. Car is at no more than 59psi at low rpm.....as opposed to the 62 psi I was running before the heads/cam.
<small>[ August 14, 2002, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>
<strong>Holy **** Matt those are killer numbers!! Remember that your comp ratio is not as high as others which would be worth a good bit.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Very true. I forgot that if was at 11.8:1 vs. 10.8:1 I would easily have another 10+rwhp. Good point! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jsears8:
<strong>Don't you have an external FPR? Maybe that is causing a problem? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I used to but I took it off. Car is at no more than 59psi at low rpm.....as opposed to the 62 psi I was running before the heads/cam.
<small>[ August 14, 2002, 07:24 PM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam Have you had those heads on a independent bench, not doubting in anyway, but 260 cfm out of a 1.55 seems alittle much. Thats flow like a Brodix -12 15 degree head on the exhaust. Done by weldtech BTW awesome power you should go fast <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TD2593:
<strong>Have you had those heads on a independent bench, not doubting in anyway, but 260 cfm out of a 1.55 seems alittle much. Thats flow like a Brodix -12 15 degree head on the exhaust. Done by weldtech BTW awesome power you should go fast <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The exhaust flow is out of a stack pipe. So take those #'s down a bit.
No they haven't been independently tested either.
<strong>Have you had those heads on a independent bench, not doubting in anyway, but 260 cfm out of a 1.55 seems alittle much. Thats flow like a Brodix -12 15 degree head on the exhaust. Done by weldtech BTW awesome power you should go fast <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The exhaust flow is out of a stack pipe. So take those #'s down a bit.
No they haven't been independently tested either.
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam I spoke with TEA at WFC, they happened to have some of their LS1 heads there. They looked like a nice head.
Those are some good numbers. Congrats!
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Those are some good numbers. Congrats!
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam Awesome numbers! You can't complain about those. The rich condition at the upper rpms is the tuning. Play around with the tuning and lean it out..you should see even more power. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam 53psi at high rpms at full throttle is normal. I've seen a bone stock LS1 trans am get down to 54psi at 6200rpms.
08-14-2002, 09:52 PM
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam Very nice numbers Verbs! You have some more hp/tq left with some tuning. Congrats!
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08-15-2002, 06:46 AM
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam Waaa waaa waaa verbs. <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> Just think You have almost the same Hp as PSJ And he has a 422 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
All you do is whine about your numbers But EVERYONE here would love to see those numbers. Quit complaining get it Tuned and get to the track.
I honestly think Like i told you on the phone you need some Ls1 edit tuning help, then youll see a Big diffrence.
really verbs what were you relly thinking You were gonna get on the dyno??????
<small>[ August 15, 2002, 06:47 AM: Message edited by: GMNightmare ]</small>
All you do is whine about your numbers But EVERYONE here would love to see those numbers. Quit complaining get it Tuned and get to the track.
I honestly think Like i told you on the phone you need some Ls1 edit tuning help, then youll see a Big diffrence.
really verbs what were you relly thinking You were gonna get on the dyno??????
<small>[ August 15, 2002, 06:47 AM: Message edited by: GMNightmare ]</small>
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dude if you're complaining about having 436RWHP 401 RWTQ with heads amd cam you are on crack!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">DAMN STRAIGHT!
STFU and hit the track <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Nice numbers and NICE peaks!!
STFU and hit the track <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Nice numbers and NICE peaks!!
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TanRchy:
<strong>Off topic. Hey verbs do u have any sound clips? i would LOVE to hear ur car!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No soundclips yet.....but hopefully soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>Off topic. Hey verbs do u have any sound clips? i would LOVE to hear ur car!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No soundclips yet.....but hopefully soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by GMNightmare:
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really verbs what were you relly thinking You were gonna get on the dyno??????</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't believe you even asked this question....considering you've already asked me a few times before! <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />
To be honest (OK, now I'm asking for a butt whoopin' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> ), I was shooting for 450rwhp and anticipated about 44x rwhp or so....
Keep in mind my car had 20-30rwhp more than most bolt on cars before the heads/cam process. That coupled with the great results I've been seeing with the TR 230/224 cam gave me hope for 450rwhp.
Of course 437rwhp ain't nothin' to sneeze at! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> I'm extatic!! I'm going to do get some more out of the combo (fuel filter, tuning, etc.), I just got some work ahead of me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ August 15, 2002, 11:02 AM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>
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really verbs what were you relly thinking You were gonna get on the dyno??????</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can't believe you even asked this question....considering you've already asked me a few times before! <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />
To be honest (OK, now I'm asking for a butt whoopin' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> ), I was shooting for 450rwhp and anticipated about 44x rwhp or so....
Keep in mind my car had 20-30rwhp more than most bolt on cars before the heads/cam process. That coupled with the great results I've been seeing with the TR 230/224 cam gave me hope for 450rwhp.
Of course 437rwhp ain't nothin' to sneeze at! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> I'm extatic!! I'm going to do get some more out of the combo (fuel filter, tuning, etc.), I just got some work ahead of me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<small>[ August 15, 2002, 11:02 AM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>
08-20-2002, 10:59 PM
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam Killer numbers Verbs! Congrat's on an awesome combo...your research really paid off. And that exhaust sounds flat wicked <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
You may want to look into the Cat over temp feature in the latest version of LS1_Edit. I tweaked mine because of an over rich high RPM condition and picked up ~12RWHP going from ~11.7 to 12.9 A/F <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
You may want to look into the Cat over temp feature in the latest version of LS1_Edit. I tweaked mine because of an over rich high RPM condition and picked up ~12RWHP going from ~11.7 to 12.9 A/F <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
08-20-2002, 11:47 PM
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by verbs:
<strong>The one problem we noticed was that my fuel pressure got as low as 53psi towards the upper rpm ranges. It seems as if my fuel pump is barely hanging on at high rpm's. I'm not sure if I'm being hindered by the lack of fuel pressure at that high of rpms.
Baseline dyno was 363rwhp/372rwtq....it seems this dyno is notorious for putting down lower numbers than others in the area (which can be seen by my 8rwhp/8rwtq drop in hp from my last dyno)
So I basically gained 73rwhp/29rwtq with LS1 edit tuning. Not as much as I had hoped for considering the size of the TR 230 cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great numbers! I'd be curious to see how you do at the track. Also, I don't think FP dropping to 53 psi is going to hurt you, but you just need to tune for it.
I'm confused by the comment that you gained 73RWHP with LS1 Edit. Are you saying you dynoed 363RWHP and with no other changes but tuning, you gained 73RWHP?
<strong>The one problem we noticed was that my fuel pressure got as low as 53psi towards the upper rpm ranges. It seems as if my fuel pump is barely hanging on at high rpm's. I'm not sure if I'm being hindered by the lack of fuel pressure at that high of rpms.
Baseline dyno was 363rwhp/372rwtq....it seems this dyno is notorious for putting down lower numbers than others in the area (which can be seen by my 8rwhp/8rwtq drop in hp from my last dyno)
So I basically gained 73rwhp/29rwtq with LS1 edit tuning. Not as much as I had hoped for considering the size of the TR 230 cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great numbers! I'd be curious to see how you do at the track. Also, I don't think FP dropping to 53 psi is going to hurt you, but you just need to tune for it.
I'm confused by the comment that you gained 73RWHP with LS1 Edit. Are you saying you dynoed 363RWHP and with no other changes but tuning, you gained 73RWHP?
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Re: Dyno Results!! TEA Stage 2 5.3L Heads w/ TR 230/224 cam </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TanRchy:
<strong>Off topic. Hey verbs do u have any sound clips? i would LOVE to hear ur car!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK, now I have soundclips!!!
ftp://68.104.178.181/Multimedia/Videos/public/z28
and if that one doesn't work try this one.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~nicolasd/videos/verbsz28.wmv
They are 11.6 megs, so be patient!!!
<strong>Off topic. Hey verbs do u have any sound clips? i would LOVE to hear ur car!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK, now I have soundclips!!!
ftp://68.104.178.181/Multimedia/Videos/public/z28
and if that one doesn't work try this one.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~nicolasd/videos/verbsz28.wmv
They are 11.6 megs, so be patient!!!