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sununix69- give me 3 weeks, I'm about to prove you wrong.... <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

Jason

Damian

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sununix69:
<strong>Oh yea btw hehe =) I am not sure if people here realize it but you cant just "stick" in the 110 ASA hotcam in the ls1 and expect it to work.....

Think about:
VACUM
FUEL MANAGEMENT
ADVANCE
IDLE
TUNING
VALVETRAIN</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">While you are very correct about all those factors, these ASA cams have been used in several street cars with light tuning. Plenty of them are running around here..

<small>[ July 29, 2002, 01:36 AM: Message edited by: Damian ]</small>

BLKWS6

I got one of the cams from RP Motorsport. WAY LOW torq range...peaked at about 3500rpms. I'm on a stock headed car too. This cam + LS6 intake i went from 316/337 non tuned (most bolt-ons) to 394/422 w/tuning. this thing held above 350 rhtrq from 3500 to about 5800 according to the dyno they did. It sounds really good too.

<small>[ July 29, 2002, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: jason99ws6 ]</small>

Ragtop 99

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I got one of the cams from RP Motorsport. WAY LOW torq range...peaked at about 3500rpms. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you have an A4 and didn't dyno with the converter locked, your torque numbers are not accurate representation of the cam's torque curve because they relect the torque multiplication of the converter. The torque on my car (224/224 114) which I dynoed locked and unlocked:
Locked: 362 ft-lbs @ 4800
Unlocked 485 ft-lbs @ 3200

BTW, those are excellent numbers for a stock head car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />


I wonder how lumpier the ASA idle is than a 226/234 112. A number of folks run that with good results.

<small>[ July 29, 2002, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</small>

ChrisB

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sununix69:
FYI I would say 90% of the people on this board have the misconception that higher lift like 560+ lift is better... Its not. Depends on your application weather its better or not. Stock heads just do not need super high lift... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

Are you saying that high lift is bad, or that it just isn't needed? At what points to you consider "high-lift" to have been achieved? How would you answer the theory of "overlifting" - e.g. even though peak lift may be greater than you can "use" on a head you will still have more area under the curve (flow-wise) - since the valve spends more time at higher lift values - since it opens quicker. Remember - the amount of time spent at peak lift is actually very small?.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><strong>
Why do you think the GM hotcam will spank a TR224 cam in a same setup car in a street race?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">On what do you base this? Are you drawing a distinction between a street race and a drag strip race? Are you implying that at a drag race the TR224 cam is faster, or are you implying that dyno numbers do not translate to real world performance. How do you define a street race?

thanks,
Chris Bennight

Teutonic Speedracer

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What do you guys think of this ASA cam with stock heads, NO Headers, but the following:

LS6 intake
y-pipe
catback
airlid

I plan on sustained high rpm driving on roadcoarse.

Thanks,
Dennis

Teutonic Speedracer

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What do you guys think of this ASA cam with stock heads, NO Headers, but the following:

LS6 intake
y-pipe
catback
airlid
***oh, and heads milled .030"***

I plan on sustained high rpm driving on roadcoarse.

Thanks,
Dennis

Damian

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What do you guys think of this ASA cam with stock heads, NO Headers, but the following:</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A cam swap of any kind won't be worth your time without the addition of at least headers. On a stock headed, stock manifold car you "may" see 20 rwhp from a cam. These cams are designed to breath, and will not run good on a completely stock motor...

Josh

ChrisB

*bump*

Should I take the lack of response as an admission of fault? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Chris

Ragtop 99

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Why would you remove the heads to mill them .030 but not give them at least a mild porting at the same time?

The cam will help w/o headers, but a cam + headers will make a huge difference. I'd use the LS6 intake $$ towards a set of headers.

2K1SS

What revived this post?

Jason99~ I thought you sold your car, and the cam was changed?

Teutonic Speedracer

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Ragtime 99,

I forgot to mention that I would do a light port job also. Oh, and since I have an O1, it already has the LS6 intake.

Dennis

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sununix69:
[QBWhy do you think the GM hotcam will spank a TR224 cam in a same setup car in a street race?[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I assume to have some video to backup your claim?

VINCE

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LOL!!! I was told there are some fast cars in the Atlanta area..

Damian

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Shon Herron:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>I need to go to Georgia to see the monsters run..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">you'll have to look for a while, I have yet to see a good running N/A LS1 from GA.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LMFAO.....Is that so? Why don't you come on down one weekend and put some money on that remark?

VINCE

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Sounds like a challenge.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Damian

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>Sounds like a challenge.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Damn right it is, who wants to bring it?

VINCE

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I will start with the slowest Josh... YOU!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Damian

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>I will start with the slowest Josh... YOU!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Vince, how are those FT heads workin out for ya??? BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

VINCE

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Thats my point. They are enough to beat a bolt on LS1.. I'll take it too yah!! Minus being down on power under the curve..