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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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who uses a comp xer 232-236 with 918's and has realistic goals of revving the motor to 6500+ continuously. im sorry i dont care what they are rated to if ur going to rev the motor that high consitantly and spend the money on an aftermarket rr then why on earth would u skimp and not use a dual spring? the people who are having issues arent using them correctly imo.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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That other post doesn't add up.. Feb of 2006? Were these rockers even out then? That’s over a year ago.. Maybe we are talking about a different "new design"?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mr2guru
Yeah, I had asked about these last year and got negative feedback from the austrailian guy who used them.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/454815-yella-terra-redesign.html

He had the adjustables, which are not the new ultra-lights. Also, the adjusting nut is on the top of the pushrod which is a design I don't personally like because you have to accelerate the adjusting mechanism with the rest of the valve train. I pulled up the 2007 PRI brochure from Yella Terra and the ultra-lights were only in a non-adjustable configuration.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jub jub
The new Y/T rockers did that just to satisfy the nay-sayers. I don't think there was anything wrong with the old design to tell you the truth. Look at the HS rockers. They have a big nose and you don't here about floating with them.

I did this test on my old 408, from H.S. back to stock....

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...-stockers.html
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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vettenuts is right .
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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I know the new YT's are lighter than the HS . 2c5s , what valve spring/retainer combo were you running (just curious)?

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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What about the question on pushrod length?
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by New Era Performance
I know the new YT's are lighter than the HS . 2c5s , what valve spring/retainer combo were you running (just curious)?

I was running a Patriot Gold combo at the time.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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subscribing... waiting for someone to note what makes these superior to rebuilt stockers.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Stock pushrod length 7.4 inches
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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I know the stock rockers were maybe a bit lighter at the tip , but fixing the problem isn't necessarily right by going back to the stock rocker (fine with a small cam) with a big cam . I am not sure what the lift was on your cam , but that spring is around 135 psi at the seat and around 350 psi at .600 lift , If you had room to shim the springs .020-.030 you would make the spring around 150 psi - 165 psi at the seat and around 400 psi + at .600 lift , or trying the new extreme spring they have out now that is 150 psi closed and 400-410 psi at .600 lift . That would be a better fix for valve float than going back to a stock rocker for a big cam because after time (not sure how much you drive it) usually the trunions on the stock rockers will fail . Small - medium cams are fine with stock rockers , it's the big aggressive ones that should have a rocker upgrade and the right valvetrain components for everything to last a long time , just my 2 cents .

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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New Era You said that all the new ones had done to them to be different, was a ball end mill used to cut a notch out of them, If I have the resources to do this, witch I do. Would it be fine if I do the same on mine, and it won't affect how they work...

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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by New Era Performance
I know the stock rockers were maybe a bit lighter at the tip , but fixing the problem isn't necessarily right by going back to the stock rocker (fine with a small cam) with a big cam . I am not sure what the lift was on your cam , but that spring is around 135 psi at the seat and around 350 psi at .600 lift , If you had room to shim the springs .020-.030 you would make the spring around 150 psi - 165 psi at the seat and around 400 psi + at .600 lift , or trying the new extreme spring they have out now that is 150 psi closed and 400-410 psi at .600 lift . That would be a better fix for valve float than going back to a stock rocker for a big cam because after time (not sure how much you drive it) usually the trunions on the stock rockers will fail . Small - medium cams are fine with stock rockers , it's the big aggressive ones that should have a rocker upgrade and the right valvetrain components for everything to last a long time , just my 2 cents .

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I'm not sure if this is directed back to me? I never had valve float issues. I did have power dropping off shortly after peak, stock rockers changed that.
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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I think they may have made some slight geometry changes as well but I am not 100% sure . You will have to remove the roller tip to make the same cut across and remove the same amount of material , I wouldn't do it but that's up to you .
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Old Mar 18, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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how much longer are they going to be on sale new era?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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yup! I noticed on peeps who are claiming hp/floating valves dont mention what cam size (duration/lift) they are using with these rockers. I'm currently using stock rockers on my 231/237 .589/.595 cam and believe I can gain from using YT due to size of cam. ".02"



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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by crazylane
New Era You said that all the new ones had done to them to be different, was a ball end mill used to cut a notch out of them, If I have the resources to do this, witch I do. Would it be fine if I do the same on mine, and it won't affect how they work...

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From the photo's there appears to be other changes as well to the overall rocker arm design. I am guessing here obviously, but to remove material they likely looked at the resulting stress field and made other changes to keep the stress levels reasonable for fatigue life on the rocker arm. I personally would not mill the older design without knowing what other changes were made to the rocker design. You have the potential to have a short lived rocker arm.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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We just wrapped up an 02 zo6 today with a 408 that we ran the Yella Terra Rocker Arms on and revved to 7000 rpms no problem , here is the graph :

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Originally Posted by New Era Performance
We just wrapped up an 02 zo6 today with a 408 that we ran the Yella Terra Rocker Arms on and revved to 7000 rpms no problem , here is the graph :


looks awsome. I got some sitting at home waiting for me to get home from the dessert.



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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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just ordered some N.E.P.

glad I caught this before I ordered some older YT from a guy on here, even a bit cheaper than his price.
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