Anyone running this BEAST of a cam?
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Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? I just found this GM cam at Pace Performance(GMPP Dealer)
Part # 88958606
Designed for Showroom Stock Road Racing
"This cam has higher valve lift, .570" intake and exhaust, than production camshafts. The duration at .050" lift is 239 degrees for intake and 251 degrees for exhaust. The lobe centers are at 106 degrees. This cam requires 2002 LS6 valves and valve springs. It has a broader torque range and higher horsepower range than the ASA racing camshaft."
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> 106 LSA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> That's nuts! I'm guessing this thing would take a little computer tweaking. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Part # 88958606
Designed for Showroom Stock Road Racing
"This cam has higher valve lift, .570" intake and exhaust, than production camshafts. The duration at .050" lift is 239 degrees for intake and 251 degrees for exhaust. The lobe centers are at 106 degrees. This cam requires 2002 LS6 valves and valve springs. It has a broader torque range and higher horsepower range than the ASA racing camshaft."
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> 106 LSA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> That's nuts! I'm guessing this thing would take a little computer tweaking. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? Big time! This looks like a Carbureted cam to me!Sure would be powerfull with open headers wot though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? Wonder if that Cam is the one that they optimized for the LS6 CNC heads (the CNC heads were designed for showroom stock)?
Wonder what that combo will do?
Also, since it is showroom stock. No, it isn't for carb motors. It is for FI. But it will lope, and it will probably need some tuning. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I doubt it would pass a sniffer test either.
<small>[ September 19, 2002, 06:53 AM: Message edited by: J-Rod ]</small>
Wonder what that combo will do?
Also, since it is showroom stock. No, it isn't for carb motors. It is for FI. But it will lope, and it will probably need some tuning. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I doubt it would pass a sniffer test either.
<small>[ September 19, 2002, 06:53 AM: Message edited by: J-Rod ]</small>
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? WOW...
106 LSA ..... now there's an IDLE I can LOVE !!!
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(that would be the perfect POSER cam !)
106 LSA ..... now there's an IDLE I can LOVE !!!
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
(that would be the perfect POSER cam !)
Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
<strong>And I wonder why GM hasnt picked up on the reverse-split fad yet...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For N/A cars, that is all that it is; a fade. For N2O or FI cars, the reverse-split cam makes sense.
<strong>And I wonder why GM hasnt picked up on the reverse-split fad yet...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For N/A cars, that is all that it is; a fade. For N2O or FI cars, the reverse-split cam makes sense.
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? There is a guy in Lubbock, TX that has a cam nearly identical to that one (same LSA and duration) in his 360 cid LS6 C5, and it cams HARD! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> It has an idle around 1,200 RPM, and the drivability of the car definitely is not the best. It makes some crazy power, though! I heard that it put down right at 470 RWHP with a set of GMPP LS6 CNC heads! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> It's trapping 120 MPH at the local strip with 4,900' DA, so it's making nice power. It's just an all-out race setup, though, with that cam in there.
<small>[ September 20, 2002, 11:27 AM: Message edited by: Trevor D ]</small>
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? Yeah Nicky is running it, look at this thread.
I would only run it with a set of good heads.
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c;f=1;t=007548
I would only run it with a set of good heads.
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...c;f=1;t=007548
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by J-Rod:
<strong>Wonder if that Cam is the one that they optimized for the LS6 CNC heads (the CNC heads were designed for showroom stock)?
Wonder what that combo will do?
Also, since it is showroom stock. No, it isn't for carb motors. It is for FI. But it will lope, and it will probably need some tuning. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I doubt it would pass a sniffer test either.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Jrod i no its not a carb cam i only mentioned that because it is very radical for computer car use. I am positive it would not pass emissions either, and would need alot of tuning to work correctly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>Wonder if that Cam is the one that they optimized for the LS6 CNC heads (the CNC heads were designed for showroom stock)?
Wonder what that combo will do?
Also, since it is showroom stock. No, it isn't for carb motors. It is for FI. But it will lope, and it will probably need some tuning. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
I doubt it would pass a sniffer test either.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Jrod i no its not a carb cam i only mentioned that because it is very radical for computer car use. I am positive it would not pass emissions either, and would need alot of tuning to work correctly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? That cam is for the World Challenge guys in SCCA. They are allowed any bottom end, 346 CID, GMPP CNC heads, and that cam. They put a lot down, but its just a spec cam taylored for that series.
<img src="http://www.metricchemical.com/m19.jpg" alt=" - " />
They were using the ASA cam in that series, but it just wasnt cutting it. David farmer on Corvette forum and here too actually, has that cam. He got the cam at the 1st of the year, and that was it. No card, and was instructed that "katech will know what to do, just put it in and dont ask" pretty much.
David farmers Webpage
<img src="http://www.metricchemical.com/m19.jpg" alt=" - " />
They were using the ASA cam in that series, but it just wasnt cutting it. David farmer on Corvette forum and here too actually, has that cam. He got the cam at the 1st of the year, and that was it. No card, and was instructed that "katech will know what to do, just put it in and dont ask" pretty much.
David farmers Webpage
Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? watch this video and you will see that the engine package is still not cutting it. Just watch the first 6 minutes, and youll see the Audi and V8 M3s just walk him down the strait. Thats speeds around 165.
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? "For N/A cars, that is all that it is; a fade. For N2O or FI cars, the reverse-split cam makes sense."
You got that backwards. An N2O cam is biased towards the exhaust side. The GM Hotcam, for instance, makes a far better N2O cam than it does a NA cam for this very reason.
You got that backwards. An N2O cam is biased towards the exhaust side. The GM Hotcam, for instance, makes a far better N2O cam than it does a NA cam for this very reason.
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Trevor D:
<strong>It has an idle around 1,200 RPM, and the drivability of the car just sucks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Trevor, when did you become an expert on the drivability of my car? It actually drives just fine and I drive it everyday.
<strong>It has an idle around 1,200 RPM, and the drivability of the car just sucks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So Trevor, when did you become an expert on the drivability of my car? It actually drives just fine and I drive it everyday.
Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? Nicky,
I sent a PM back to ya. I'm not trying to step on your toes...no hard feelings.
Again, to each his own. The only person that has to be happy with your car is you. You should be happy with the power that it's making because it is performing well! I will retract my statement and just drive the car the next time I roll through Lubbock. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ September 21, 2002, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Trevor D ]</small>
I sent a PM back to ya. I'm not trying to step on your toes...no hard feelings.
Again, to each his own. The only person that has to be happy with your car is you. You should be happy with the power that it's making because it is performing well! I will retract my statement and just drive the car the next time I roll through Lubbock. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ September 21, 2002, 10:41 AM: Message edited by: Trevor D ]</small>
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? I wonder what this cam would do in my 422ci? I am running the S1 (244/244//112) but man oh man a 106 LSA I wonder where it would peak...
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? 06blues I PM'd you.
As I said, the CNC heads say they were developed for showroom stock. The camshaft sez that it is for showroom stock.
Would it be a leap to imagine that GM has done some testing to come up with this package, and that it might work well together?
I guess some mail to David Farmer is in order....
As I said, the CNC heads say they were developed for showroom stock. The camshaft sez that it is for showroom stock.
Would it be a leap to imagine that GM has done some testing to come up with this package, and that it might work well together?
I guess some mail to David Farmer is in order....
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? The cam in question is actually a Grand-Am Cup racing camshaft. We have one in stock right now, but they are very hard to get at this time.
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Re: Anyone running this BEAST of a cam? Thanks LIL SS and nthnwbr for pointing that out. I have now learned my one new thing for the day <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />