View Poll Results: peak hp, or under the curve hp
Peak HP
53
11.60%
Under the curve
404
88.40%
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peak horse power, or under the curve power! what do you prefer?
03-22-2007, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Best quote from a lame movie
"it doesn't matter if you win by an inch, or a mile, a win is a win, period"
it is all about combo, the whole combo of a well balanced ride. One thing some pople can't get in their head, peak HP only occurs for a fraction of time in the rpms, trq is what gets you out the hole. so a well balanced combo will have loads of trq and plenty HP that carries for the highest amount between shifts. That is not only related to motor output.
If that was the case the turbos would beat me all the time, but they don't!, why because by the time they spool, i'm 4>5 car length down the track. Now those guys are running 200+ more horses than me, but their ride is not balanced well for launch, so they loose.
"it doesn't matter if you win by an inch, or a mile, a win is a win, period"
it is all about combo, the whole combo of a well balanced ride. One thing some pople can't get in their head, peak HP only occurs for a fraction of time in the rpms, trq is what gets you out the hole. so a well balanced combo will have loads of trq and plenty HP that carries for the highest amount between shifts. That is not only related to motor output.
If that was the case the turbos would beat me all the time, but they don't!, why because by the time they spool, i'm 4>5 car length down the track. Now those guys are running 200+ more horses than me, but their ride is not balanced well for launch, so they loose.
03-25-2007, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ericbigmac83
I dunno, ive always been more of a peak kinda guy. If im cruising at 25mph in 3rd im not gonna leave it in 3rd and worry about if i have enough power under the curve, im gonna drop it down a gear and knock the rpms up to 4500ish and take off. so no, i really dont care about under the curve so much.
i guess i just almost always race from a roll so peak is what matters to me.
i guess i just almost always race from a roll so peak is what matters to me.
If I'm cruising next to a guy that wants to run what am I going to do?
A. Stay in whatever gear I am in and just floor it from 2000-4500 RPM to use my power under the curve.
B. Downshift to 4500 RPM and shift at 6000 RPM so that I am at 4500 again for my next gear. That is where my peak horsepower is.
Your car is accelerating fastest at PEAK HORSEPOWER, not peak torque. You don't have to believe me, but physics happens to agree with me, as well as the other engineers in the advanced tech section.
Last edited by Louie83; 03-25-2007 at 11:45 PM.
03-25-2007, 11:12 PM
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To get technical torque does not move the car. Horsepower does. There is no time element when figuring for torque.
When figuring for horsepower rpm comes into the equation. m = minute. So for a car to move a certain distance time has to have elapsed. Hence horsepower.
Flame away.
When figuring for horsepower rpm comes into the equation. m = minute. So for a car to move a certain distance time has to have elapsed. Hence horsepower.
Flame away. 
03-25-2007, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
If you want peak power, you should have bought a Supra with a 110mm single turbo.
So everyone needs to stop being afraid of thinking they'll look like a ricer if they see peak power is more important. Ricer is far from the truth.
03-26-2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Why can't they shift into their powerband? See that argument makes NO sense whatsoever if a car is geared properly!!!!!
04-06-2007, 04:36 PM
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So if you want area under the curve then would it be better to go with say a 220/220 590 590 112 vs a 227/227 590 590 112? In my opnion I think the 227 would be a bit more of a monster from a roll or a dig. Can someone clarify what would be the better choice.
04-07-2007, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1989GTA
To get technical torque does not move the car. Horsepower does. There is no time element when figuring for torque.
When figuring for horsepower rpm comes into the equation. m = minute. So for a car to move a certain distance time has to have elapsed. Hence horsepower. Flame away.
When figuring for horsepower rpm comes into the equation. m = minute. So for a car to move a certain distance time has to have elapsed. Hence horsepower.
Flame away.Please inform me how Horsepower moves the car instead of Torque.Horsepower is just a measurement of Torque at a specific rpm.(Torque)=twisting force which causes the vehicle to move(Horsepower)=work in a straight line.A direct measurement of torque(TQxRPM/5252=HP).I do think you need to study up on TQ and HP a little more.HP is just the amount of work by Force(Torque)over a period of time.Torque moves the car not Horsepower...sorry but...
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04-08-2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Why can't they shift into their powerband? See that argument makes NO sense whatsoever if a car is geared properly!!!!!
04-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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Under the curve is where tis at, but I voted Peak for one reason... In a race from a 30:
I'm in first gear at 4,500 RPM, race starts, shift at 6,200
RPMs drop to around 4,700, second or so later, shift at 6,200
RPMs drop to around 4,600, second or so later, shift at 6,200
Thats all peak power, from a dig its a different story, but all of my races so far have been from 25-40 to 70-100
I'm in first gear at 4,500 RPM, race starts, shift at 6,200
RPMs drop to around 4,700, second or so later, shift at 6,200
RPMs drop to around 4,600, second or so later, shift at 6,200
Thats all peak power, from a dig its a different story, but all of my races so far have been from 25-40 to 70-100
04-09-2007, 12:48 PM
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I prefer a balance of average hp/tq across the rpm range...my car doesn't have those crazy peak #'s but works great on the street/strip with power everywhere. I have no issues hanging with most.
Here's an example (#'s through 12bolt/3.90's, 3" steel d/s & spool)*
3500rpm = 300rhp/450lbs
4000rpm = 350rhp/455lbs
4600rpm = 420rhp/485lbs
5000rpm = 435rhp/460lbs
$$$ 5252rpm = 450rhp/450lbs $$$
5500rpm = 465rhp/435lbs
6000rpm = 470rhp/420lbs
*edited had FAST Mamofied
Here's an example (#'s through 12bolt/3.90's, 3" steel d/s & spool)*
3500rpm = 300rhp/450lbs
4000rpm = 350rhp/455lbs
4600rpm = 420rhp/485lbs
5000rpm = 435rhp/460lbs
$$$ 5252rpm = 450rhp/450lbs $$$
5500rpm = 465rhp/435lbs
6000rpm = 470rhp/420lbs
*edited had FAST Mamofied
Last edited by cdubbzz; 04-25-2008 at 11:07 AM.
