View Poll Results: peak hp, or under the curve hp
Peak HP
53
11.60%
Under the curve
404
88.40%
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peak horse power, or under the curve power! what do you prefer?
04-27-2007, 05:18 PM
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What do you guys think about the curve on this Mustang Dyno ? Dyno Jet should be around 8% more to make it 424/380 give or take.Peak HP was at 6200 and TQ at 5000rpm.
04-28-2007, 06:12 PM
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FWIW-----I had an MS3, and she SCREAMED at 7K....but that got old on the street to be honest...
I have decided to scaledown a bit, prabably to something in the 228/232 range formore power where it counts...UNDER THE CURVE
I have decided to scaledown a bit, prabably to something in the 228/232 range formore power where it counts...UNDER THE CURVE
04-28-2007, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ProjectCamaro
That's fine if it's a race car but who shifts at 6700 rpm in the middle of traffic. So your argument makes NO sense whatsoever if you want to drive the car on the street.
05-01-2007, 06:41 PM
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I was told my car wouldn't have enough area under the curve and would suck on the street. I love it though, it doesn't roast the tires too bad and once I hit 3K in pulls like I am riding a lightning bolt. I still have the stock 3.42's in the back too, haven't even put in the 4.10's. My friends car makes slightly more tq (435?)and less HP(450+), yet I still roast him every time. When I drive his car, it doesn't feel any faster, doesn't feel any better on the street. I made max HP at 6800. My TQ curve isn't as flat, but I will take crossin the line first over a line on a dyno sheet.
05-03-2007, 01:42 PM
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I voted peak power seeing as I track my car.
Once I get my cam that's what I'm going to get it for, peak, seeing as I stay above 5,500 rpm most of the time.
But if it was a strictly street burner, then yeah, I'd vote for both.
Once I get my cam that's what I'm going to get it for, peak, seeing as I stay above 5,500 rpm most of the time.
But if it was a strictly street burner, then yeah, I'd vote for both.
05-08-2007, 02:28 PM
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My car is on the street more than the track and I enjoy making power from 3200 to 6500 vs. 4800 to 7000. Gearing can work both ways and you don't need 4.56s if you have a broad spread of power...
05-09-2007, 11:23 PM
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some of you guys need to stop and think. when are you EVER at 3000 RPM's in a race? For what, a split second? Why do th400 and th350 trannies pull so damn hard? because they KEEP THE CARS IN THE BAND. Who gives a crap about how much "low end power" you make at 3k? I mean really. Six speed, auto, who cares. When i race my car doesnt drop below 6k. Line up an MS4 cammed car to a 230/232 car that makes "more power under the curve", and that bigger cam is going to go by that smaller cammed car in the top end. Ive seen it happen countless times on the street, and at the track.
It just annoys me when people talk so much about "power under the curve" so damn much when discussing cam choice. if this was the case, everyone would be rolling around with a 226 cam. when cars spend so very little time actually in that area of the band, i reallyc ould care less how much power it makes there compared to its peak numbers. Ill take my 7200 rpm monster cam over a more "low end" torque 230 cam any day of the week.
It just annoys me when people talk so much about "power under the curve" so damn much when discussing cam choice. if this was the case, everyone would be rolling around with a 226 cam. when cars spend so very little time actually in that area of the band, i reallyc ould care less how much power it makes there compared to its peak numbers. Ill take my 7200 rpm monster cam over a more "low end" torque 230 cam any day of the week.
05-09-2007, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by VENGEANCE
some of you guys need to stop and think. when are you EVER at 3000 RPM's in a race? For what, a split second? Why do th400 and th350 trannies pull so damn hard? because they KEEP THE CARS IN THE BAND. Who gives a crap about how much "low end power" you make at 3k? I mean really. Six speed, auto, who cares. When i race my car doesnt drop below 6k. Line up an MS4 cammed car to a 230/232 car that makes "more power under the curve", and that bigger cam is going to go by that smaller cammed car in the top end. Ive seen it happen countless times on the street, and at the track.
It just annoys me when people talk so much about "power under the curve" so damn much when discussing cam choice. if this was the case, everyone would be rolling around with a 226 cam. when cars spend so very little time actually in that area of the band, i reallyc ould care less how much power it makes there compared to its peak numbers. Ill take my 7200 rpm monster cam over a more "low end" torque 230 cam any day of the week.
It just annoys me when people talk so much about "power under the curve" so damn much when discussing cam choice. if this was the case, everyone would be rolling around with a 226 cam. when cars spend so very little time actually in that area of the band, i reallyc ould care less how much power it makes there compared to its peak numbers. Ill take my 7200 rpm monster cam over a more "low end" torque 230 cam any day of the week.
It has to do with drivability, there is always going to be that small percentage of the population that doesn't care if the car bucks, shakes, and rattles like a 40's tank in slow moving traffic, or have to have 4.30+ gears or a 4000 stall.
For those that DD their car and don't want to have to keep the car at 3500-4000 rpm while accelerating or having to get out of OD to pass a smaller cam that makes killer midrange tq is going to be more enjoyable.
The first question to ask when spec'ing a cam is about driving habits and ultimate goal for the car.
A MS4 will make killer topend but will be almost impossible to drive with a stock stall auto or 3.23 M6.
Each cam has it's purpose you just have to decide at what rpm you want to have your fun at.
05-10-2007, 08:31 AM
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[QUOTE=VENGEANCE]some of you guys need to stop and think. when are you EVER at 3000 RPM's in a race?
You're not suppose to be racing on the street. Now if you want to drive around at 6000 rpm on the street and attract every cop around you and wear your motor out twice as fast, then go ahead. For DRAG RACING ONLY, I would agree with you. But I think most people on here are refering to a street car that races at the track on occasions.
For what, a split second? Why do th400 and th350 trannies pull so damn hard?
So manuals don't pull so damn hard?
because they KEEP THE CARS IN THE BAND. Who gives a crap about how much "low end power" you make at 3k?
I do, as along with most others on here thats been there, and done that.
I mean really. Six speed, auto, who cares. When i race my car doesnt drop below 6k.
There you go refering to racing only again. For a drag car ONLY, I would agree, but not for something you drive on the street any.
Line up an MS4 cammed car to a 230/232 car that makes "more power under the curve", and that bigger cam is going to go by that smaller cammed car in the top end.
Wanna prove it with me? I have a little cam. GT2-3. Of course I have a supercharger too. Because I like the power under the curve. I like to be able to pass up a semi-truck in the blink of an eye without having to down shift into a lower gear and spinning the tires all over the highway.
Ive seen it happen countless times on the street, and at the track.
It just annoys me when people talk so much about "power under the curve" so damn much when discussing cam choice. if this was the case, everyone would be rolling around with a 226 cam.
Like me?
when cars spend so very little time actually in that area of the band,
Huh? I spend 95% of my time in that band.
i reallyc ould care less how much power it makes there compared to its peak numbers. Ill take my 7200 rpm monster cam over a more "low end" torque 230 cam any day of the week.
I wish you was closer. I would take you up on that. For a street car, I will take Torque over HP anytime
You're not suppose to be racing on the street. Now if you want to drive around at 6000 rpm on the street and attract every cop around you and wear your motor out twice as fast, then go ahead. For DRAG RACING ONLY, I would agree with you. But I think most people on here are refering to a street car that races at the track on occasions.
For what, a split second? Why do th400 and th350 trannies pull so damn hard?
So manuals don't pull so damn hard?
because they KEEP THE CARS IN THE BAND. Who gives a crap about how much "low end power" you make at 3k?
I do, as along with most others on here thats been there, and done that.
I mean really. Six speed, auto, who cares. When i race my car doesnt drop below 6k.
There you go refering to racing only again. For a drag car ONLY, I would agree, but not for something you drive on the street any.
Line up an MS4 cammed car to a 230/232 car that makes "more power under the curve", and that bigger cam is going to go by that smaller cammed car in the top end.
Wanna prove it with me? I have a little cam. GT2-3. Of course I have a supercharger too. Because I like the power under the curve. I like to be able to pass up a semi-truck in the blink of an eye without having to down shift into a lower gear and spinning the tires all over the highway.
Ive seen it happen countless times on the street, and at the track.
It just annoys me when people talk so much about "power under the curve" so damn much when discussing cam choice. if this was the case, everyone would be rolling around with a 226 cam.
Like me?
when cars spend so very little time actually in that area of the band,
Huh? I spend 95% of my time in that band.
i reallyc ould care less how much power it makes there compared to its peak numbers. Ill take my 7200 rpm monster cam over a more "low end" torque 230 cam any day of the week.
I wish you was closer. I would take you up on that. For a street car, I will take Torque over HP anytime
