I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions
09-30-2002, 04:31 PM
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I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions I don't care about who makes them.
I want the biggest power cam for drag racing.
Heads will stay stock for now,I want to set some 'Cam only M6 records'.
I was thinking a split reverse 230 cam.
Give me dyno #'s(graphs),exact sizes,springs,ect.
I am not concerned with drivablity,I am concerned with kickin' major ***
at the track.
I may get a crazy Idea of trying to go 10's on just a cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I want the biggest power cam for drag racing.
Heads will stay stock for now,I want to set some 'Cam only M6 records'.
I was thinking a split reverse 230 cam.
Give me dyno #'s(graphs),exact sizes,springs,ect.
I am not concerned with drivablity,I am concerned with kickin' major ***
at the track.
I may get a crazy Idea of trying to go 10's on just a cam. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
09-30-2002, 04:52 PM
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions you have picked a good cam for that. why dont you do heads, and spray a 150 shot, make a run for the 9s on a stock bottom end? that would be really cool!
09-30-2002, 04:53 PM
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions opinions will vary but you cant go wrong with GTP's 226/226 591/591 112. or MMS's 229, or the TR 230 reverse, the X1/F1, etc, et all.
they will all do well. pick one out of a hat and tune the crap out of it. make sure that the ENTIRE car is working with the cam.
they will all do well. pick one out of a hat and tune the crap out of it. make sure that the ENTIRE car is working with the cam.
09-30-2002, 05:21 PM
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nickn20:
<strong>you have picked a good cam for that. why dont you do heads, and spray a 150 shot, make a run for the 9s on a stock bottom end? that would be really cool!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How do you know my plans?All in good time ,Nick.
BTW-it will be alot more than a 150 shot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>you have picked a good cam for that. why dont you do heads, and spray a 150 shot, make a run for the 9s on a stock bottom end? that would be really cool!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How do you know my plans?All in good time ,Nick.
BTW-it will be alot more than a 150 shot. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions Hey just get a BIG torque converter so you'll hit peak hp as soon as you hit the go pedal. Then you can launch that thing like John Force. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JWRENCH:
<strong>M6? Stupid me... Sorry... <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was about to say <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> HAHAHA
10's cam only, now thats a goal <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> good luck...
ill be happy running what you run on motor with my 224 cam <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />
<strong>M6? Stupid me... Sorry... <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was about to say <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> HAHAHA
10's cam only, now thats a goal <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> good luck...
ill be happy running what you run on motor with my 224 cam <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions Get the TR 230/224 cam and get rid of your exhaust in favor of 18" extensions with turndowns right off the headers. (track use only)
The reverse split cams are designed to help compensate for the intake being a restriction, BUT..... you need a free flowing exhaust for it to work well.
With that combo I can see LOW 11's this winter with stock heads still on the car.
<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
The reverse split cams are designed to help compensate for the intake being a restriction, BUT..... you need a free flowing exhaust for it to work well.
With that combo I can see LOW 11's this winter with stock heads still on the car.
<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
09-30-2002, 11:07 PM
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bad Habit Bird:
<strong>Get the TR 230/224 cam and get rid of your exhaust in favor of 18" extensions with turndowns right off the headers. (track use only)
The reverse split cams are designed to help compensate for the intake being a restriction, BUT..... you need a free flowing exhaust for it to work well.
With that combo I can see LOW 11's this winter with stock heads still on the car.
<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is exactly what I would recommend. I have been very happy with how this cam has worked so far. The times in the sig were in Memphis in June when the Density Altitude was around 2500'. The car was spinning on nearly every run. With some better air, more weight reduction (~3400lbs now), and a better 60', I can't see why low low 11s wouldn't be attainable.
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<strong>Get the TR 230/224 cam and get rid of your exhaust in favor of 18" extensions with turndowns right off the headers. (track use only)
The reverse split cams are designed to help compensate for the intake being a restriction, BUT..... you need a free flowing exhaust for it to work well.
With that combo I can see LOW 11's this winter with stock heads still on the car.
<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is exactly what I would recommend. I have been very happy with how this cam has worked so far. The times in the sig were in Memphis in June when the Density Altitude was around 2500'. The car was spinning on nearly every run. With some better air, more weight reduction (~3400lbs now), and a better 60', I can't see why low low 11s wouldn't be attainable.
Jason
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 01-Z:
<strong>Give me dyno #'s(graphs),exact sizes,springs,ect.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A bit more info for you:
I'm running the Comp 918s with the Comp 772 Titanium retainers.
Here is a dyno graph comparing the 224 to the 230 cam (through the y-pipe/cutout):
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/jason99...str224_224.jpg
<strong>Give me dyno #'s(graphs),exact sizes,springs,ect.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A bit more info for you:
I'm running the Comp 918s with the Comp 772 Titanium retainers.
Here is a dyno graph comparing the 224 to the 230 cam (through the y-pipe/cutout):
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/jason99...str224_224.jpg
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bad Habit Bird:
<strong>Get the TR 230/224 cam and get rid of your exhaust in favor of 18" extensions with turndowns right off the headers. (track use only)
The reverse split cams are designed to help compensate for the intake being a restriction, BUT..... you need a free flowing exhaust for it to work well.
With that combo I can see LOW 11's this winter with stock heads still on the car.
<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">3 inch y-pipe with dual 3 inch electric cutouts <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>Get the TR 230/224 cam and get rid of your exhaust in favor of 18" extensions with turndowns right off the headers. (track use only)
The reverse split cams are designed to help compensate for the intake being a restriction, BUT..... you need a free flowing exhaust for it to work well.
With that combo I can see LOW 11's this winter with stock heads still on the car.
<img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">3 inch y-pipe with dual 3 inch electric cutouts <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 3 inch y-pipe with dual 3 inch electric cutouts <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is another way of obtaining a "free flowing" exhaust setup.
Think about this though. Dual cutouts will only ADD weight to the car. With 18" extensions you will drop the weight of the y-pipe and catback (Im guessing 50lbs) And everyone knows how much 01-Z loves to take weight off the car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ October 01, 2002, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Bad Habit Bird ]</small>
Think about this though. Dual cutouts will only ADD weight to the car. With 18" extensions you will drop the weight of the y-pipe and catback (Im guessing 50lbs) And everyone knows how much 01-Z loves to take weight off the car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ October 01, 2002, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Bad Habit Bird ]</small>
10-01-2002, 01:58 PM
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions I read 'dual electric cutouts' and my first thought was...
That's TOO MUCH WEIGHT!
BadHabitBird knows me all too well. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Whenever I do the cam,I will dyno it with just the cam.
Then consider massaging the exhaust.
The best way to find power,one thing at a time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
That's TOO MUCH WEIGHT!
BadHabitBird knows me all too well. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Whenever I do the cam,I will dyno it with just the cam.
Then consider massaging the exhaust.
The best way to find power,one thing at a time. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: I NEED MORE POWER! Cam suggestions </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nickn20:
<strong>you have picked a good cam for that. why dont you do heads, and spray a 150 shot, make a run for the 9s on a stock bottom end? that would be really cool!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right and santa clause is real...
Provide evidence that a Car with heads and cam witha 150 shot with Stock bottom end ran 9's without breaking the next day. BS
<strong>you have picked a good cam for that. why dont you do heads, and spray a 150 shot, make a run for the 9s on a stock bottom end? that would be really cool!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right and santa clause is real...
Provide evidence that a Car with heads and cam witha 150 shot with Stock bottom end ran 9's without breaking the next day. BS