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Old 03-24-2007, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wssexorz
he asked for 175 dollars for the work .... i have not payed him a cent yet because all of the trouble he has caused me

there is 2 other things that got fucked up that i had to go back and fix too ... oil pump and pcv piping
dont pay him at all! if he messed anything up, i think hes gunna have to end up paying you!
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i wish
Old 03-24-2007, 12:39 PM
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did u get the bolt yet? and i didnt read the whole thread.. but mite wanna recheck that the bolts are all torqued correctly... where are u located?
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Originally Posted by wssexorz



Holy ****! Thats the dirtiest I've ever seen the inside of an LS1!!
Old 03-24-2007, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike94ZLT1
Holy ****! Thats the dirtiest I've ever seen the inside of an LS1!!
lol..mines dirty..not that dirtly..bit its close... stupid SS hood makes it hard to keep it clean..gets dusty so quick! i have seen much worse than that! MUCH WORSE!
Old 03-24-2007, 12:55 PM
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i think hes talkin ab out the color of the rockers............... hella dark and brown. mine are clean and greyish silver
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Originally Posted by ricethis
i think hes talkin ab out the color of the rockers............... hella dark and brown. mine are clean and greyish silver
o lol..well yea then mines that bad to.. i thought they were suppose to be that color.. when i change springs again ima have to clean them... dam now i feel dumb
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dont feel bad. i just did a top end rebuild and mine looked the same.
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located in SD


ordered the bolt ... won't be here till like tues
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wow get the right bolt i never start or finish anything unless i have all teh right stuff
Old 03-24-2007, 02:25 PM
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yah pretty sure thats the last time i'll listen to him ... i figured he would know what hes talking about cuz hes had like 4 f bodys ... z06 ... now a cts-v .... all of them he modded up ...

when i was goign to change the spring in the oil pump i was pulling the pulley off and one of the lil things on the inside thats there for a pulley puller to hook too broke off .... and then i told him about it and he told me the pulley would be fine to put back on

A BALANCED PULLEY ... i said **** that and ordered a new one ...
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
o and i have stock length rods with the ms3 no problems. .witch is bigger than ur cam..so i think u should be fine with those PR .
Your lifter preload, or lack thereof, is jacked up if you used 7.4's with a MS3. Its simple math to figure out how long they should be and 7.4 is way short on a MS3 to maintain normal lifter preload.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Your lifter preload, or lack thereof, is jacked up if you used 7.4's with a MS3. Its simple math to figure out how long they should be and 7.4 is way short on a MS3 to maintain normal lifter preload.
TSP said that 7.4s would do the job.. they also recommended them! now if they are wrong... who would beable to tell me the truth on witch ones i should use? they made the cam... they should know what they are doing. everybody i have talked to using the ms3 is using stock length push rods! so im confused.
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
TSP said that 7.4s would do the job.. they also recommended them! now if they are wrong... who would beable to tell me the truth on witch ones i should use? they made the cam... they should know what they are doing. everybody i have talked to using the ms3 is using stock length push rods! so im confused.
This has been discussed before and im not going to even mention vendors at all. 7.4's are way too short for a cam only swap. You should be using at least a 7.425 or a 7.450. Even an XE lobed cam will require at least a 7.425 PR, so the MS cams which are on xe-r lobes i believe will need an even longer rod since the base is much smaller.

Sure everyone can use the 7.4 and they may not notice the wrong preload and valvetrain geometry over the noise of the car with the big cam, that doesnt mean its still not wrong.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
This has been discussed before and im not going to even mention vendors at all. 7.4's are way too short for a cam only swap. You should be using at least a 7.425 or a 7.450. Even an XE lobed cam will require at least a 7.425 PR, so the MS cams which are on xe-r lobes i believe will need an even longer rod since the base is much smaller.

Sure everyone can use the 7.4 and they may not notice the wrong preload and valvetrain geometry over the noise of the car with the big cam, that doesnt mean its still not wrong.
so what would i benefit from getting the right ones? whitch ones is the rite size? somebody should know the ms3 is not new at all... 7.425s? or 7.450?
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
so what would i benefit from getting the right ones? whitch ones is the rite size? somebody should know the ms3 is not new at all... 7.425s? or 7.450?
Your benifit will be a quiter valetrain and proper lifter preload.
7.45's will work but may add a bit of lifter preload but not too much, that would be my choice if i had that cam.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Your benifit will be a quiter valetrain and proper lifter preload.
7.45's will work but may add a bit of lifter preload but not too much, that would be my choice if i had that cam.
alright.. thanks! ima have to look into getting some new PR then.
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
alright.. thanks! ima have to look into getting some new PR then.
Just get a pushrod length checker and find out the exact size you need. Then post the results from the checker.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Just get a pushrod length checker and find out the exact size you need. Then post the results from the checker.
alrite..will do!
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
alrite..will do!
You will be the first person out there out of the many with a MS cam that will actually measure for PR size, that will have to be a sticky.



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