More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS!
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More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! Where has this tool been after all these years?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I was able to use this tool yesterday for a cam swap on an '02 Z06. It makes changing valvesprings a very quick and easy ordeal. I have used the regular screw-type compressor many times and this tool blows it away. We had the springs swapped in less than 45 minutes. If you are doing a valvespring swap with your new cam, definitely consider purchasing this tool. It will make the hardest part of a cam swap a breeze!
For more info, take a look here:
http://www.moreperformanceinc.com/he...lvetrain.htm#M LS1 ST
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For more info, take a look here:
http://www.moreperformanceinc.com/he...lvetrain.htm#M LS1 ST
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Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! yes it does! I bought and used mine last weekend. It made the reinstall of my REV springs SOOOO much easier compared to using the snap-on crank-down style I used last time.
Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! Someone posted that it was an awesome tool to remove the springs, but that it was kind of hard to install them. Something about trying to put the retainers in with it or something. True or not? Either way, I'm buying it.
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Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 11 Bravo:
<strong>Someone posted that it was an awesome tool to remove the springs, but that it was kind of hard to install them. Something about trying to put the retainers in with it or something. True or not? Either way, I'm buying it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Installing them was not hard once you used the tool a few times. I found putting a little dab of grease on the keepers worked great.
<strong>Someone posted that it was an awesome tool to remove the springs, but that it was kind of hard to install them. Something about trying to put the retainers in with it or something. True or not? Either way, I'm buying it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Installing them was not hard once you used the tool a few times. I found putting a little dab of grease on the keepers worked great.
Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jason99T/A:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 11 Bravo:
<strong>Someone posted that it was an awesome tool to remove the springs, but that it was kind of hard to install them. Something about trying to put the retainers in with it or something. True or not? Either way, I'm buying it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Installing them was not hard once you used the tool a few times. I found putting a little dab of grease on the keepers worked great.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed. It was only a problem really putting the keepers in when you were trying to do it with 2 people. I did one side with two people and it took a while because it was cramped with 4 arms in there. We were also using extensions so the ratchet reached all the way out in front of the head... this made it harder to keep control of the compressor.
On the driver's side I did it solo with no extensions except on the back few springs, and it was 100x easier to do. I also found it easy to put the keepers on one at a time, and rotate the first one around towards the center of the car, then put the second one on and hold it in place as you slowly released the compressor.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 11 Bravo:
<strong>Someone posted that it was an awesome tool to remove the springs, but that it was kind of hard to install them. Something about trying to put the retainers in with it or something. True or not? Either way, I'm buying it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Installing them was not hard once you used the tool a few times. I found putting a little dab of grease on the keepers worked great.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed. It was only a problem really putting the keepers in when you were trying to do it with 2 people. I did one side with two people and it took a while because it was cramped with 4 arms in there. We were also using extensions so the ratchet reached all the way out in front of the head... this made it harder to keep control of the compressor.
On the driver's side I did it solo with no extensions except on the back few springs, and it was 100x easier to do. I also found it easy to put the keepers on one at a time, and rotate the first one around towards the center of the car, then put the second one on and hold it in place as you slowly released the compressor.
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Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! I used this tool to install REV double springs, when we swapped out the 918s i had to use the old stlye compressing tool.
the moreperformance tool is great for installing springs, but for removing i found it quite dificult to use, the retainer would go down and so would the valve and that was with a compressed cylinder. did anyone experience this as well? i ran a bout 90 psi in the cylinder should i have run more?
the moreperformance tool is great for installing springs, but for removing i found it quite dificult to use, the retainer would go down and so would the valve and that was with a compressed cylinder. did anyone experience this as well? i ran a bout 90 psi in the cylinder should i have run more?
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Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nickn20:
<strong>I used this tool to install REV double springs, when we swapped out the 918s i had to use the old stlye compressing tool.
the moreperformance tool is great for installing springs, but for removing i found it quite dificult to use, the retainer would go down and so would the valve and that was with a compressed cylinder. did anyone experience this as well? i ran a bout 90 psi in the cylinder should i have run more?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think that may have been because the keepers had wedged in the retainer. I install the LS6 springs that came with my hotcam kit last week end. I have the heads off and was using the lever style c clamp type.for a few of them I had to tap on the top of it because the keepers were wedged in the retainer. It didn't take much, juyst a light tap.
<strong>I used this tool to install REV double springs, when we swapped out the 918s i had to use the old stlye compressing tool.
the moreperformance tool is great for installing springs, but for removing i found it quite dificult to use, the retainer would go down and so would the valve and that was with a compressed cylinder. did anyone experience this as well? i ran a bout 90 psi in the cylinder should i have run more?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think that may have been because the keepers had wedged in the retainer. I install the LS6 springs that came with my hotcam kit last week end. I have the heads off and was using the lever style c clamp type.for a few of them I had to tap on the top of it because the keepers were wedged in the retainer. It didn't take much, juyst a light tap.
Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! Would this tool work on any SBC valve spring replacement? It is touted as being LSX specific, and not having worked on LSX heads I dont know if they are different as for the rocker arm studs/etc, but would this not work on an LTX head or a regular SBC head?
Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nickn20:
<strong>did anyone experience this as well? i ran a bout 90 psi in the cylinder should i have run more?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's normal. I've heard it's caused by turning high revs. I had to tap nearly every one of mine to get the retainers to budge loose. (I used a socket with an extension on it and gave it a little tap with a hammer)
<strong>did anyone experience this as well? i ran a bout 90 psi in the cylinder should i have run more?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's normal. I've heard it's caused by turning high revs. I had to tap nearly every one of mine to get the retainers to budge loose. (I used a socket with an extension on it and gave it a little tap with a hammer)
Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! sure did. The keepers almost always get "wedged," no matter which spring compressor that you use on the vehicle it isn't going to help the matter. I just (right after I take off all the rocker arms) use a small (1/2 inch or so) socket with a 3" extension on it and go around to all the valves, place the socket in the center of the retainer, and just give it a couple of light taps. This is enough to loosen them up most of the time. Then you just go around to all the valves and use the tool to remove the compressor.
When I used the snap-on crank down compressor, I gave a tap after the spring was already compressed. I still had to do it on every valve just about, it was just easier to keep track of the keepers by doing it after the spring compressed with this style of compressor. The air pressure in the cylinder is there ONLY to keep the valve from falling down after the retainer and keepers have been removed.
Shon Herron: The tool will only work on heads with roller rockers (not roller tipped). (And I'm not sure if other roller rockers are similar to those used in the LS1. It does use the same roller provisions as the LS1 rocker arms use.)
When I used the snap-on crank down compressor, I gave a tap after the spring was already compressed. I still had to do it on every valve just about, it was just easier to keep track of the keepers by doing it after the spring compressed with this style of compressor. The air pressure in the cylinder is there ONLY to keep the valve from falling down after the retainer and keepers have been removed.
Shon Herron: The tool will only work on heads with roller rockers (not roller tipped). (And I'm not sure if other roller rockers are similar to those used in the LS1. It does use the same roller provisions as the LS1 rocker arms use.)
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Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! I am quite familiar with tapping on the retainer to get it loose when the valve is compressed, so let me get this straight you take a half inch socket place it over the retainer and hit it? then use the more performance tool and they come out easy? hmm ill have to try that.
Re: More Performance valvespring tool ROCKS! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001SS#3013:
<strong>Can you only attach the ratchet to the left side of the tool or can you attach it to the right side also?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep, you can attach it to either side <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong>Can you only attach the ratchet to the left side of the tool or can you attach it to the right side also?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep, you can attach it to either side <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />