Z06Cam

I posted the graphs in the original post at the beginning of the thread if anyone's interested.

BB- you and I both know I don't need a cam and headers to deal with you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> j/k

XtraCajunSS

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Congrats on those #'s Cameron!!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Who was it that said you would do 420RWHP???

I think it was me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Anyway, it must be a great feeling to have a daily driver that sick! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Shane

Z06Cam

Thanks Shane! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Only 100rwhp to go until I catch you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

Bayou Boy

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by XtraCajunSS:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Z06Cam:
<strong>Thanks Shane! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Only 100rwhp to go until I catch you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hopefully it will be a little more than that very soon... <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

Shane</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So you found a Baby bottle to fit on that SS?
After you install it you should be a lil' closer than Z06Cam is to my tail lites. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Tim98TA

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Z06Cam:
<strong>Thanks Shane! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Only 100rwhp to go until I catch you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shane ONLY races on the dyno. He too scared to get out and mix it up on the street. 'fraid he'll get smacked down by a certain black TA.(Which he will)

Tim

XtraCajunSS

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Z06Cam:
<strong>Thanks Shane! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Only 100rwhp to go until I catch you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hopefully it will be a little more than that very soon... <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

Shane

XtraCajunSS

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tim98TA:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Z06Cam:
<strong>Thanks Shane! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Only 100rwhp to go until I catch you! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shane ONLY races on the dyno. He too scared to get out and mix it up on the street. 'fraid he'll get smacked down by a certain black TA.(Which he will)

Tim</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Crusty,

That is brave talk coming from someone who has more dyno pulls than me...

BTW, if you really are coming after me, you WILL need a bigger bottle... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

REAL MEN don't need a bottle. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Yours Truly,
shane

2000SILVERTA

The slower you people are, the more chit yall talk. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Hope you can get that dyno queen to ET better next time out to the track Cam. I will be at Hallsvilee this saturday if you want some of the Silver Beast.

MichSS

"The orange hammer is Thunder's new high-speed valvespring compressor. Geoff bangs on the retainers with the hammer and Jason catches the locks with a magnet! Using their new (and no longer secret) method of replacing valvesprings"

Flame suit on and I'm sure I'll get booted for bashing a sponsor, but... A HAMMER to change valve springs on a fifty thousand dollar Z06?!!!
That's how they tear down cores at the junk yard.
And for the three "technicians" not wearing safety glasses, keepers will go through your eye like a bullet through jello. Seen it, now have a one eyed friend. Put the hammer down and step away from the vehicle.

There is no reason not to use the right tools. Was the customer charged less labor and shop supplies? I recently got involved in several "burns oil after a cam swap" jobs. It usually turns out to be wrong or improperly installed valve seals. But one LS1 turned out to be bent valves and tore up guides, from guess what? Hammering on the retainer to remove the keepers. Sodium filled hollow valves bend pretty easy, especially from the side load of a sledge hammer striking the retainer.

Enjoy the power, keep an eye on the dipstick. If you ever tear those heads down, roll the valves on a glass table. A good valve spring compressor is a priceless tool in a professional engine shop (as are safety glasses). Don't see any ASE badges on those uniforms? At the cleaners?
Off soapbox now, go ahead and boot me.

ROB'S SS

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MichSS:
<strong>"The orange hammer is Thunder's new high-speed valvespring compressor. Geoff bangs on the retainers with the hammer and Jason catches the locks with a magnet! Using their new (and no longer secret) method of replacing valvesprings"

Flame suit on and I'm sure I'll get booted for bashing a sponsor, but... A HAMMER to change valve springs on a fifty thousand dollar Z06?!!!
That's how they tear down cores at the junk yard.
And for the three "technicians" not wearing safety glasses, keepers will go through your eye like a bullet through jello. Seen it, now have a one eyed friend. Put the hammer down and step away from the vehicle.

There is no reason not to use the right tools. Was the customer charged less labor and shop supplies? I recently got involved in several "burns oil after a cam swap" jobs. It usually turns out to be wrong or improperly installed valve seals. But one LS1 turned out to be bent valves and tore up guides, from guess what? Hammering on the retainer to remove the keepers. Sodium filled hollow valves bend pretty easy, especially from the side load of a sledge hammer striking the retainer.

Enjoy the power, keep an eye on the dipstick. If you ever tear those heads down, roll the valves on a glass table. A good valve spring compressor is a priceless tool in a professional engine shop (as are safety glasses). Don't see any ASE badges on those uniforms? At the cleaners?
Off soapbox now, go ahead and boot me.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">thats quite an impressive first post you have there. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

nice numbers with that cam. i hope i make good horse with my new tr 230 cam. the specs on it are 229/224 575/561

95 Formula

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MichSS:
<strong>"The orange hammer is Thunder's new high-speed valvespring compressor. Geoff bangs on the retainers with the hammer and Jason catches the locks with a magnet! Using their new (and no longer secret) method of replacing valvesprings"

Flame suit on and I'm sure I'll get booted for bashing a sponsor, but... A HAMMER to change valve springs on a fifty thousand dollar Z06?!!!
That's how they tear down cores at the junk yard.
And for the three "technicians" not wearing safety glasses, keepers will go through your eye like a bullet through jello. Seen it, now have a one eyed friend. Put the hammer down and step away from the vehicle.

There is no reason not to use the right tools. Was the customer charged less labor and shop supplies? I recently got involved in several "burns oil after a cam swap" jobs. It usually turns out to be wrong or improperly installed valve seals. But one LS1 turned out to be bent valves and tore up guides, from guess what? Hammering on the retainer to remove the keepers. Sodium filled hollow valves bend pretty easy, especially from the side load of a sledge hammer striking the retainer.

Enjoy the power, keep an eye on the dipstick. If you ever tear those heads down, roll the valves on a glass table. A good valve spring compressor is a priceless tool in a professional engine shop (as are safety glasses). Don't see any ASE badges on those uniforms? At the cleaners?
Off soapbox now, go ahead and boot me.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL...dude..that was just a joke. We have fun ribbing on each other down here in Louisiana. Trust me...all the correct tools were used to install the cam and springs. Geoffs(thunder racing owner) tool box and tools cost more than my house and he loves to use his investments.

Just sit back and watch how we have fun raggin on each other and you will understand.

Tim

Paul F

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MichSS:
<strong>"The orange hammer is Thunder's new high-speed valvespring compressor. Geoff bangs on the retainers with the hammer and Jason catches the locks with a magnet! Using their new (and no longer secret) method of replacing valvesprings"

Flame suit on and I'm sure I'll get booted for bashing a sponsor, but... A HAMMER to change valve springs on a fifty thousand dollar Z06?!!!
That's how they tear down cores at the junk yard.
And for the three "technicians" not wearing safety glasses, keepers will go through your eye like a bullet through jello. Seen it, now have a one eyed friend. Put the hammer down and step away from the vehicle.

There is no reason not to use the right tools. Was the customer charged less labor and shop supplies? I recently got involved in several "burns oil after a cam swap" jobs. It usually turns out to be wrong or improperly installed valve seals. But one LS1 turned out to be bent valves and tore up guides, from guess what? Hammering on the retainer to remove the keepers. Sodium filled hollow valves bend pretty easy, especially from the side load of a sledge hammer striking the retainer.

Enjoy the power, keep an eye on the dipstick. If you ever tear those heads down, roll the valves on a glass table. A good valve spring compressor is a priceless tool in a professional engine shop (as are safety glasses). Don't see any ASE badges on those uniforms? At the cleaners?
Off soapbox now, go ahead and boot me.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please tell me you don't really think that's how we or anyone else would change valvesprings? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Why are you not showing your e-mail address? Got something to hide. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Paul

Z06Cam

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MichSS:
<strong>Thanks for responding Paul. I guess I misinterpreted the pictures, didn't realize they were a joke. I've seen a lot of bent valves lately from hammer swingers and probably overreacted to seeing the picture. But seriously, please put some safety glasses on those guys. A keeper through the eye is a life changing accident. Have a good one, congrats on building awesome power.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL Its cool dude. For future reference, when someone adds the acronymn, "j/k" that means "just kidding." The thing about the hammer was in fact a joke. They used the best tools available to do the job and did outstanding work.

MichSS

Thanks for responding Paul. I guess I misinterpreted the pictures, didn't realize they were a joke. I've seen a lot of bent valves lately from hammer swingers and probably overreacted to seeing the picture. But seriously, please put some safety glasses on those guys. A keeper through the eye is a life changing accident. Have a good one, congrats on building awesome power.

Ramair346

Hey, Z06Cam or any of the Thunder Racing guys, I've got an 02 WS-6, M6 and I'm doing H/C this winter. I was thinking of using this cam with the GM Performance parts CNC LS-6 heads that come with all the 02 valves and springs. Any input or suggestions? Which pushrods did you guys use also?
Thanks a bunch <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Matthew@thunder

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Hey, Z06Cam or any of the Thunder Racing guys, I've got an 02 WS-6, M6 and I'm doing H/C this winter. I was thinking of using this cam with the GM Performance parts CNC LS-6 heads that come with all the 02 valves and springs. Any input or suggestions? Which pushrods did you guys use also?
Thanks a bunch </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We used Comp 918 springs and 7.400 pushrods.

Ramair346

What do you think about the heads matched with the cam? Will it be a descent combination? How was the idle on the Z06 also? Are the 02 springs not enough to handle that cam?

95 Formula

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They changed the springs so my guess is they didn't feel comfortable with the stock spriing on that cam. I heard and rode in the car. If you didn't listen for the cam you would hardly notice it. The car was a beast too. Pulled hard through ever gear. Can't help ya on the heads choice since I have never seen anything on those. But I bet if you got a set of ls6 heads from GTP/Thunder you would see better results.

Tim

Ramair346

I don't want to say I'm on a budget, but the sky isn't the limit unfortunately. Here is the write-up on the heads for anyone willing to offer advice:
These heads will flow over 200cfm at 0.300" lift and 290+ at 0.500". Fully assembled with the 2002 Z06 light-weight valves and the new '02 valve springs. These heads have been milled 0.055" to bring the combustion chambers back down to approximately 60cc. Care must taken to check pushrod length and proper intake installation when using these cylinder heads.

If anyone thinks a different cam is a better way to go, please advise. Also, would the 7.400 pushrods still be the way to go?

The car is a 2002 WS-6 M6 with all the bolt-ons. 3.42 (and I'll probably stick with a 3.42 should I destroy it). I'm looking to put 400rwhp+ and torque in that area as well.

Paul F

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ramair346:
<strong>They're supposed to be LS6 heads. The GM part # description says they're LS-6 also.
I'm starting to think I should maybe look into a different set of heads though. The reason I was hopped up on getting them is because I figured if Z06cam pulled 423 out of stock heads, these should flow a bit better and not to mention they're $2200 with no core.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There's nothing wrong with LS6 heads but if they are milled .055 then the cc is going to be more like 57-58cc rather then 60cc. Your compression is gonna be high. For a few hundered more you could get a set of GTP Stage II that make great power.

Paul