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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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I'm debating on which cam to get. I know the MS4 will need flycutting but will the Torquer v.3 to have a safe PTVC? If it does I'm just gonna go with a MS4.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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I'm debating on which cam to get. I know the MS4 will need flycutting but will the Torquer v.3 to have a safe PTVC? If it does I'm just gonna go with a MS4.

If you are leaving stock heads in the car, you don't need to flycut. You will need new springs though for either one as the v3 is .643/.603 if I remember right.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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The stock heads are gonna be on the car untill I cant get a set of Trick Flows. I know the springs need to be replaced. I'll be getting the package with springs and retainers. Just wasnt sure about the PTVC. Thanks for the info man.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Ive been in cars with both cams and to be honest the MS4 pulled alot harder......atleast thats what my butt-o-meter felt.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Lol. I heard the MS4 is a beast, that is why I like so much.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 02:39 AM
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I debated the same thing in my head for a long time till I decided on the MS4.

No regrets!My car is a beast and I could not be happier. Pulls like a freight train to the redline!

I've got it tuned to the point where it drives like stock all the way from a cold start!

Before it would be harsh and you would have to gingerly feather the clutch to get it to roll from a cold start and now I can put it around just as it was when stock.

BTW, it sounds bad ***!

P.S> MS4 does not need flycutting with stock heads.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Yeah, what they said. Oh and if you get the PRC 1.5 Heads, they dont need flycutting with the MS4 either. Love Mine.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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You should be flycutting with a Magic Stick. Just becasue a cam clears does not mean it clears with safe piston to valve clearances. I wouldnt want my piston and valves as close as they are with these cams with no flycutting. But hey its your motor.
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Its been done many times with stock heads with the MS4 cam. Ill be doing it soon myself as soon as i get my TH350 in the car.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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And most of the guys doing that aren't revving that cam out either. $50 says they're not touching 6800rpm.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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My rev limiter is set to 7000 with the shift points at about 67-6800. Love the MS4. Pulls like a monster up top and still daily drive it with a 4400 stall.
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My rev limiter is set to 7000 with the shift points at about 67-6800. Love the MS4. Pulls like a monster up top and still daily drive it with a 4400 stall.
What kinda bottom end do you have? Im already looking into a 383 rotating assembly lol bc i know the stock bottom end wont last @6800 rpm or long anyways
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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I have the MS4 in my M6 and freaking love it, that is what I would choose for you, it pulls like a SOB up top and feels like it doesn't want to quit pulling, I had mine custom ground on a 110lsa though but that wont clear stock heads if I remember right.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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well the MS4 is one hell of a cam and you cant go wrong with it but fly cutting would be a good idea just to be safe.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks everyone. I'm now stuck with the MS4. As soon as I get my exhaust done, the cam and a stall will be next.
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