surging and bucking with my MS3 is TERRIBLE!
Originally Posted by ls2 bait
i u have an aggressive clutch in the car which in itself doesnt like to be driven like a sissy. (no offense) i noticed a drop in driveability as far as putsing around a parking lot just from the clutch swap pre cam in my car. .
tommy
p.s.-jeremy is the man so lets keep this civil gentleman
tommy
p.s.-jeremy is the man so lets keep this civil gentleman
Yes lets not turn this into a tuner bash session. Jeremy has a good rep and its probably for a reason.
hey hey hey...this is not a Jeremy bash guys...who the hell said it was? I sure didnt...im mad at the car, not the tuner...Jeremy and I spoke, I ammeeting with him Thursday of next week..im pumped to let him tweak it more..
Tommy (ls2Bait)- I see what you are saying about the driver, but honestly, I drive the car perfectly...the fact that I have to feather the gas to maintain idle is not my idea of driver error...
Anyway...big cam = big tune....enough said
Tommy (ls2Bait)- I see what you are saying about the driver, but honestly, I drive the car perfectly...the fact that I have to feather the gas to maintain idle is not my idea of driver error...
Anyway...big cam = big tune....enough said
Originally Posted by TORCHD 02 TA
Erik it is all in the tune....
i jsut recently had my 228/232 on a 110+4 installed. keep in mind i am on the stock 3.42. Car had bad bucking, idle dip, no warm start and hesitation. My car was on the dyno for 7+ hours. I took the car back to my tuner 5 times. The tune makes all the difference in the world. Get you throttle cracker table in tact. Also get the g/cyl down then that way you can get the right VE!
But my car now, it only bucks between 1600-1800 RPMs. I have no idle dip or idle hang. The hesitation is a lot better. You will get hesitation under 2K RPMs with a big cam, you are not making, not until 3K+ RPMs. And the only thing that is wrong with my car is the warm start. My IAC will not reset at all.
So take the car back have them tune it for street manners.
Nice numbers, what is all done to your car?
i jsut recently had my 228/232 on a 110+4 installed. keep in mind i am on the stock 3.42. Car had bad bucking, idle dip, no warm start and hesitation. My car was on the dyno for 7+ hours. I took the car back to my tuner 5 times. The tune makes all the difference in the world. Get you throttle cracker table in tact. Also get the g/cyl down then that way you can get the right VE!
But my car now, it only bucks between 1600-1800 RPMs. I have no idle dip or idle hang. The hesitation is a lot better. You will get hesitation under 2K RPMs with a big cam, you are not making, not until 3K+ RPMs. And the only thing that is wrong with my car is the warm start. My IAC will not reset at all.
So take the car back have them tune it for street manners.
Nice numbers, what is all done to your car?
I went with some PRC 5.3 stage 2.5 heads from TSP, the MS3, FAST 90 NW 90, EWP, UP, bolt ons, full exhaust, etcetc...a lot of stuff..
Car hauls major ***...just needs a bit more street tuning..i recommend this set up to anyone..just know you have to get a thorough tune!
guys....you wont believe this...when I drive the car I NEVER use A/C...I just dont...usually cause the t tops are off and I cruise a lot at night...
ANYWAY..I happened to drive the car today to work, and it was hotter than a bitch, so I flipped on the A/C...
As I drove around I noticed that all of my idle fluctuation problems (idle rising and dipping from 300 rpm to 1500 rpm dissapeared...the car ran more or less FINE...WTF is going on...I thought that turning the A/C on would have made things worse...but it seems to catch the revs when they are coming down rapidly, then it steadys at like 900 rpm....anyone have any idea why the A/C being on would affect it in a positive way?
BTW, I ran a counter test and drove immediately after with the AC off, revs rise randomly and then the idle fluctuation problem came back...WTF!
ANYWAY..I happened to drive the car today to work, and it was hotter than a bitch, so I flipped on the A/C...
As I drove around I noticed that all of my idle fluctuation problems (idle rising and dipping from 300 rpm to 1500 rpm dissapeared...the car ran more or less FINE...WTF is going on...I thought that turning the A/C on would have made things worse...but it seems to catch the revs when they are coming down rapidly, then it steadys at like 900 rpm....anyone have any idea why the A/C being on would affect it in a positive way?
BTW, I ran a counter test and drove immediately after with the AC off, revs rise randomly and then the idle fluctuation problem came back...WTF!
Originally Posted by brad8266
Your idle air tables are probably off and the extra load brings the required airflow back in line with the actual airflow.
Yep, what he said
Changing the idle correction time to about 2 sec's stopped the surging as well.
I did an RAFIG (Idle speed air correction) process which helped bring my desired aiflow tables where they should be then added 1 g/sec.
Then the Throttle Cracker Activate speed I changed to 15mph and Deactivate @ 13mph which keeps the idle from hanging up when coming to a stop.
Thanks to SSpdmon for that help!
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when you turn the A/C on, that extra load bumps the motor up 50 RPMs. Maybe that is all that your car needs. Adjsut the idle table a bit. Make sure you do not get idle hang...
BTW, when i turned mine on, b/c i was getting the car washed. After driving off, coming to a stop i had idle hang like whoa
That is ok, b/c i never really use the a/c...
BTW, when i turned mine on, b/c i was getting the car washed. After driving off, coming to a stop i had idle hang like whoa
That is ok, b/c i never really use the a/c... 
If you need new o2's make sure you get the vette replacements as they are better and have a better heat range for H/C cars. I had problems after my cam swap and my 02 readins were way off- stockers at 78k. I changed them out to the new bosch vette sensors, and a formatto tune and everything tune wise is right on.
try to get it scanned before you head over on thursday, could save you some headach.
try to get it scanned before you head over on thursday, could save you some headach.
Originally Posted by ls2 bait
i dont think my a/c **** has ever been turned off 
i even run that **** when the windows are down
i even run that **** when the windows are down
Originally Posted by black01_WS6
If you need new o2's make sure you get the vette replacements as they are better and have a better heat range for H/C cars. I had problems after my cam swap and my 02 readins were way off- stockers at 78k. I changed them out to the new bosch vette sensors, and a formatto tune and everything tune wise is right on.
try to get it scanned before you head over on thursday, could save you some headach.
try to get it scanned before you head over on thursday, could save you some headach.
Originally Posted by SpdFrk1990
Your car is nice man hope you get it running how you like it soon.
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Hey Erik, thanks for the LS6 intake manifold. That was a good install experience...or should i say experiences... Broken oil pressure sending unit, lol. Did you ever sell your fuel rails and injectors?
