How small of a cam is to small
How small of a cam is to small im posting this for a friend:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It is the TPIS ZL10, these are the specs:
Intake:208, Exhaust:216 at .050, and the lift is .525.
What is anyone's thoughts on this cam?
Specs can be found at www.tpis.com, click on LS1, then Valve Train. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">personally i think this is a waste of time, but what does everyone else think? He wants a good cam that wont effect driveablity any. I reccomended a TR224 or the comp 224 .563 to him. Since he has a M6 is idle really wont be effected to bad.
but if he does put that cam above in will he still need beefier valve springs and pushrods??
what would everyone else do? Ditch it and get something bigger?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It is the TPIS ZL10, these are the specs:
Intake:208, Exhaust:216 at .050, and the lift is .525.
What is anyone's thoughts on this cam?
Specs can be found at www.tpis.com, click on LS1, then Valve Train. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">personally i think this is a waste of time, but what does everyone else think? He wants a good cam that wont effect driveablity any. I reccomended a TR224 or the comp 224 .563 to him. Since he has a M6 is idle really wont be effected to bad.
but if he does put that cam above in will he still need beefier valve springs and pushrods??
what would everyone else do? Ditch it and get something bigger?
Re: How small of a cam is to small Anything under a 218 cam is a complete waste of time IMO. The only other cam that I would recommend if you want completely stock driveability and 100% zero issues, would be the 02 LS6 cam. They make decent power.
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Re: How small of a cam is to small I wouldn't call it a waste. He will gain some low and midrange torque and a bit of top end with a cam of those durations, lift, tighter than stock LSA and a few degrees of advance ground in. That cam is quite similar to LS6 specs. However, I would encourage him to go to at least the 216/220 Comp cam or a similar grind. Otherwise he'll later wish he had gone bigger. I ran the baby 206/212 Comp cam in my car for a while, and moved up to my current cam when I got my heads. With stock heads it seems cams in the 218-224 range of duration give good area under the curve. With stock 3.42's in the rear he may want to err on the conservative side. Just my $.02. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Re: How small of a cam is to small I run a 212/216. I had a hot cam in my other car.
Definately not a waste.. a very nice street cam without any issues..the low duration makes it perfect for the street (power is low and midrange)and most importantly FOR ME <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Definately not a waste.. a very nice street cam without any issues..the low duration makes it perfect for the street (power is low and midrange)and most importantly FOR ME <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: How small of a cam is to small I think that a 218 single pattern or a 216/220//115 Comp are good cams to think about.
If they are too small it might not be a good bang for the buck for most folks, unless you are some HVAC guy who does his own camwork (thooperman).
If they are too small it might not be a good bang for the buck for most folks, unless you are some HVAC guy who does his own camwork (thooperman).
Re: How small of a cam is to small 212/218 114 is the smallest I would go.
He could go with a comp XE 220/220 115 +2 advance and it would be almost undetectable at idle and provide much better power than the TPIS cam. A 216/220 114 would be a good choice if he doesn't have headers.
He could go with a comp XE 220/220 115 +2 advance and it would be almost undetectable at idle and provide much better power than the TPIS cam. A 216/220 114 would be a good choice if he doesn't have headers.
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Re: How small of a cam is to small I'm running the Comp XE 218/.563/114+4 single pattern cam in my car. I am pleased with it and I don't feel I wasted my time. Power is up all around and it pulls hard as the rpms go up. Makes for a good street cam with stock heads/manifolds/programming. No dyno numbers yet, but I probably got 30 HP or so out of it. I definitely would not go smaller, except for the '02 ZO6 cam for a total sleeper..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: How small of a cam is to small </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong>.
If they are too small it might not be a good bang for the buck for most folks, unless you are some HVAC guy who does his own camwork (thooperman).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good point Johhny Rockets, i guess if you`re gonna pay to have it installed go with something bigger... I can change one quick if I get bored.. which I may be already <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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If they are too small it might not be a good bang for the buck for most folks, unless you are some HVAC guy who does his own camwork (thooperman).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good point Johhny Rockets, i guess if you`re gonna pay to have it installed go with something bigger... I can change one quick if I get bored.. which I may be already <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: How small of a cam is to small any time you put a new cam you need to replace the springs. Push rods are a must, the stock ones are just too wear anyways <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
