need streetable 380-400rwhp
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need streetable 380-400rwhp I am getting my grad. Money soon and plan on putting a good bit of it into my 2000 trans am ws6. Right now all I have done is a gmmg catback, but plan on a pair of longtubes, custom catted y, an ls6 intake, and a whisper lid. Now my problem is, what kind of cam should I get? Keep in mind the car is my daily driver. I've been looking at the TR230/224-111 .575/.563, would this get me to 380 or anywhere around 400? And how would this affect the driveability and mpg? (Btw I would be getting a tune after all these parts are installed(cam,lts,intake)
Also, what would the sound be like? Choppy at idle? Would it be very noticeable?(I'd like some lope
)
Thanks in advance,
Michael
Also, what would the sound be like? Choppy at idle? Would it be very noticeable?(I'd like some lope
)Thanks in advance,
Michael
Last edited by michaelxx16; Apr 27, 2007 at 08:36 AM.
Go with the following:
TSP Torquer v2
Comp 918 springs
Comp Chrome Molly factory length push rods
Long tubes (pace setter ceramic are good), off-road y-pipe (if you have emission friends)
LS6 intake or similar
Port or replace the MAS and Throttle body with larger units.
Get it dyno-tuned
Viola! 380+ and very streetable. My wife drove mine all the time with a Stage II SPEC clutch that before I tore it down to do a 408 made 412/382 with ported heads. Some people might agree/disagree but it is a proven combination that has really good street manners and the 112 degree lobe seperation has a nice lope to it!
You can't go wrong with this... except if you use stock street tires, you'll have 0 traction through first gear and part of second.
TSP Torquer v2
Comp 918 springs
Comp Chrome Molly factory length push rods
Long tubes (pace setter ceramic are good), off-road y-pipe (if you have emission friends)
LS6 intake or similar
Port or replace the MAS and Throttle body with larger units.
Get it dyno-tuned
Viola! 380+ and very streetable. My wife drove mine all the time with a Stage II SPEC clutch that before I tore it down to do a 408 made 412/382 with ported heads. Some people might agree/disagree but it is a proven combination that has really good street manners and the 112 degree lobe seperation has a nice lope to it!
You can't go wrong with this... except if you use stock street tires, you'll have 0 traction through first gear and part of second.
Originally Posted by michaelxx16
Has anyone had any experiance w/ the cam I listed? Also what's the specs on the torquer v.2? And mcamarols1 with that cam and heads u have 400?
Originally Posted by michaelxx16
Has anyone had any experiance w/ the cam I listed? Also what's the specs on the torquer v.2? And mcamarols1 with that cam and heads u have 400?
I don't think you wanna spin your motor to what the T2 wants. I'd stay around a 224 dur. for what you're asking. Does your budget allow for heads? Because if it does allow for a $1,200 set of heads, you could be at 420rwhp pretty easily with the TR 224 on a 112 LSA and some Livernois heads. It has been done quite a few times before and would be very streetable with a nice little lope. If you want to go more aggressive and more lopey, you could go with a 228/232 grind on a 110 LSA with 2 to 4 degrees advance ground in.
All in all, if you have the supporting mods, I could see you hitting 375 to 385 rwhp with just the TR 224 so just keep that in mind. Picking up an LS6 intake or FAST 78 (even better but pricier) wouldn't hurt either
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I hit 400 on cam w/ bolt-ons. The 1-2k rpm range is still a little tricky in 1st-3rd. The car just doesn't like going under 20 
All in all it's going to cost some cash, unless you can do the insalls yourself.
MPG blows ***, 18 if Im lucky
All in all it's going to cost some cash, unless you can do the insalls yourself.MPG blows ***, 18 if Im lucky
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I haven't dynoed my Trans AM but the 224 cam with ls6 heads really woke it up while remaining very streetable. I do have a brand new TR224 112lsa Never taken out of the box if you decide you want to go that direction. I agree with GTOdsessor on the heads, if you have the extra cash. I found it all pretty easy to install even though I had never torn into an engine before.
Originally Posted by michaelxx16
Has anyone had any experiance w/ the cam I listed? Also what's the specs on the torquer v.2? And mcamarols1 with that cam and heads u have 400?
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new setup Ok, how about a used ls6 intake, stock MAF/throttle body, whisper lid, pacesetter coated lts, custom y-pipe(havnt decided to use cats or not, listened to a few clips on ls1sounds.com and still sounded rasp with cats and longtubes ona gmmg catback) gmmg cat, and that tr224/224-112 .563/.563 would get me to 380-400 on stock heads?(estimate or anyone else got this combo witha dyno sheet?)
Ditto... only mine is the G5X3..( actually 403rwhp/405rwtq) Mine is also a DD..
Originally Posted by Bill Bowling
I got 401HP with an A-4 on my daily driver with the Torquer 1. Specs below.
Good Luck.
Bill
Good Luck.
Bill
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What's the diff. Effects of the numbers ona cam? (I've read through the cam guide sticky) torquer v.2 is 232/234 .595/.598, isn't that a pretty big cam? What would be the diff in that and the tr230/224-111 .575/.563? So wat would be the differences in those 2 cams? With my setup?(ls6 intake, longtubes,lid)
Thanks a lot,
Michael
Thanks a lot,
Michael
The second cam you got there is called a reverse split.
See how the 2 first numbers are switched compared to the other cam.
Ex.- 232/234 compared to 230/224
Reverse split cams are designed to work best with stock heads. You would get some good results from a reverse split choice & stock heads. Just remember not to get hung up on hittin a certain number, pick your cam for the type of power curve you want. If you don't you won't be happy after.
See how the 2 first numbers are switched compared to the other cam.
Ex.- 232/234 compared to 230/224
Reverse split cams are designed to work best with stock heads. You would get some good results from a reverse split choice & stock heads. Just remember not to get hung up on hittin a certain number, pick your cam for the type of power curve you want. If you don't you won't be happy after.