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Old May 2, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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So if I were to purchase a used LS1 shortblock what would be required to forge it? and what kind of price range would i be looking at?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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You are goin to need a bare block. Forged crank, forged pistons, forged connecting rods. All the connecting rod bolts, the bearings, and possibly have the block honed and maybe even bored to fit the pistons and then have the machinist make sure the rods are good on the clearance, then have somebody machine the parts to precision, then have a block builder put it together by checking the bearing gaps and piston ring(s) gap and then assemble it. I think it might be easier and maybe cheaper to go the speedinc.com way and just purchase the damn block already forged and assembled for about 2800.00 and have piece of mind to go with it.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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You are goin to need a bare block. Forged crank, forged pistons, forged connecting rods. All the connecting rod bolts, the bearings, and possibly have the block honed and maybe even bored to fit the pistons and then have the machinist make sure the rods are good on the clearance, then have somebody machine the parts to precision, then have a block builder put it together by checking the bearing gaps and piston ring(s) gap and then assemble it. I think it might be easier and maybe cheaper to go the speedinc.com way and just purchase the damn block already forged and assembled for about 2800.00 and have piece of mind to go with it.

Why a forged crank? Whats wrong with the stock one?
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TTT. wondering this also. im pickin up a used Forged 347 with a stock crank. any issues i should be worried about


(i TTT'd this so i wouldnt have to make a new topic....so i dont wanna hear about resurecting old threads! lol)
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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I wouldn't worry about using a stock crank. It's the pistons and rods I'd be more concerned with.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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What are the plans for the car?

At any rate the stock crank is fine for some pretty good power.
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If you have a bare block and are looking for all of the components to fill it with, we are having a sale on our forged rotating assemblies for $2075! We can even work with your provided block and put a killer short block together for ya!
Here is a link to the K1 Tech/ Wiseco Rotating Assemblies:
http://weberracing.net/Engine-Type-G...184/index.html
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How long is the sale going to last?
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1MCSS
How long is the sale going to last?
This will probably go on until the end of the month.
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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If you are staying stock cubes or close to it, I would leave the stock crank and throw a set of forged rods and pistons in it. I have seen stock cranks take well over 1000 HP and I have yet to see one actually break. Chances are you will need to have your block honed to not only clean the bore up but get them matched to the larger bore pistons. There are very few options for pistons for the factory bore size. Aside from pistons you will want to put a good set of H-beam connecting rods in as well. Most will come with ARP 8740 rod bolts but you can upgrade to ARP 2000 bolts if you would like or if you are looking to throw a big power adder of some kind at it. Other than that, have the rotating assembly balanced, put a set of rings in it for your application, re-bearing the rods and mains and put it back together!

Feel free to give me a call with any questions you might have. We can get you setup with everything you will need! We have some pretty good deals on both Diamond pistons and Eagle rod combos but we can always set something up if you prefer Callies, Lunati, and Oliver to name a few!
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my plans are heads/cam and the occasionally nitrous pass at the track. the forged shortblock i picked up is as follows

Ross pistons, Lunatti rods, stock crank, 2cc valve reliefs, ARE built with a little over 3k miles.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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also i am having a difficult time picking a decent prices set of heads out as well, looking for something affordable say in the 1200-1500 price range, any suggestions?
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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yeah ive looked at those. its between PRC and the livernois heads.... decisions decisions
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Originally Posted by 1SicV8
yeah ive looked at those. its between PRC and the livernois heads.... decisions decisions
On the higher side of that price range is the new Trickflow as cast heads. They are making great numbers and have been proven to be reliable. They start at $1899. It is a little bit more now, but really worth the value in the long run. Also the TEA Stage 1.5 work GREAT for only $1250. You can get ahold of us if you are interested in a set.

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