Is it safe run run airplane gas?
#3
Originally Posted by ericosu84
Aviation gas is 100 octane with small amounts of lead in it. 100LL. If it were my car i would not put AV Gas in it.
#4
lead helps lubricate the few places that oil doesn't really get to, like valve guides. However, all newer motors are made so they don't need lead anymore. The biggest reason to not use leaded gas in a modern motor is lead will ruin the O2 sensor, which will make your car run like ****.
#5
Airplanes are still allowed to use leaded gasoline. I typed the last statement wrong. Octane ratings of 100 or more are commonly used in super-high-performance piston airplane engines. In the case of AV Gas, 100 is the gasolines performance rating, not the actual octane in the gas. It probably wouldnt hurt your car but i wouldnt put in in mine. I only use it in my Barron 55, Plus the gas is very expensive!
#6
The root of the question is why do you think you need AV gas? There are other places to get 100+ octane but again why do you think you need it? It won't improve your power or mileage on a stock or even highly modified engine unless the CR is higher than 12:1 its a total waste. People equate octane with power when that is NOT the case.
#7
Biggest drawback with any leaded gasoline is that is coats the o2 sensor making it "lazy". If you have a 3 wire heated o2 though you can run leaded for a little while without much of an ill effect.
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#9
I would not exatly recommend Av Gas, because of the 100 LL (Low Lead) content. The lead is there as an Anti-knock, and your engine does not need lead. On airplanes you can lean the engine out and run it hot to burn the lead off, but it would be difficult on a Automobile engine. if you can get 100 av gas (green by color) that would work fine, but it may be a little expensive. Av Gas runs at 4.75/gal down here in Melbourne, FL.
#11
Originally Posted by hellbents10
Lower specific gravity on the av. fuel will mean running a little leaner then on regular non-av. fuel.
#12
I'm not going to run this often. I buy this for my race atv and had about 3 gallons left over so i just put it in the ta just to see how it would run. I don't think it will cause any problems since it is mixed. Like I said before, this is just a one time thing. I filled my atv up and had some left so i just got curious.
#13
Originally Posted by hellbents10
Lower specific gravity on the av. fuel will mean running a little leaner then on regular non-av. fuel.
#14
Originally Posted by mvvette97
I'm not going to run this often. I buy this for my race atv and had about 3 gallons left over so i just put it in the ta just to see how it would run. I don't think it will cause any problems since it is mixed. Like I said before, this is just a one time thing. I filled my atv up and had some left so i just got curious.
#15
Originally Posted by Bo White
What kinda ATV?
#16
not sure about this but, I think AV gas will melt or brittle piston rings. putting oil i it for ATV is ok cause ATV needs oil. rings! well, I dont think its a good idea. if you do use it then keep us posted on results.
#18
Originally Posted by SSpdDmon
So if someone runs open loop and no NBO2 sensors full time, there's not really any ill effects of running leaded gasoline?
no ill effects... and no performance gain.
#20
3 gallons of 100 LL is not going to hurt your car. It should be blue and it does have a high lead content. Dump it in there and run it. You probably won't notice any difference. The only way I can see you gaining power is if your car normally has to pull timing or knock retard and this new octaine level helps that. I'd put it in my Corvette.