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ls1 to lt1
well i sold my ls1 ss camaro a while back.. i couldnt afford it anymore an i needed money. i miss the hell out of it.. i wish i could buy another one. but i dont have the money. i do have the money to buy a 94 pontiac firebird formula A4 from my dads friend for 500 bux.. he blew the waterpump. had it replaced an then it wouldnt start.. i was told its the opti spark. since its behind the pump an probly got it wet an ruined it. will i be dissapointed going from a ls1 to lt1? if so.. how much an why lol
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haha yea thats the biggest upside. i miss my ls1 like crazy. i had a 408 built for it. i was in the process of getting a custom single turbo kit for it.. the works.. ran out of money an said.. police academy was more important.. sold it all. lost so much money on it to.
if i get the car i plan on getting the lt4 hotcam and lt4 heads.. just dont know if there smog legal california? if so.. anyone know what kinda wheel horsepressure they make?
if i get the car i plan on getting the lt4 hotcam and lt4 heads.. just dont know if there smog legal california? if so.. anyone know what kinda wheel horsepressure they make?
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yea i know. iv just never messed with lt1 before so i dont know what to expect. i know its not gonna be slooow. but going from a kenne bell cobra, to a cam'd 404 wheel horsepower ls1 to a 250 tops horsepower car is wierd lol.
any info on if the lt4 hot cam an heads are smog legal in cali?
any info on if the lt4 hot cam an heads are smog legal in cali?
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forget the hot cam,get the cc305,1.6s,hard pushrods,Le2 heads,mac mids,3.73s new clutch and a tune.
500.00 formula
235.00 cam
100.00 cloyes double roller chain
250.00 1.6rockers
1100.00 ported heads
100.00 gaskets
250.00 new opti
450.00 headers/y-pipe
450.00 gears and instal
500.00 spec clutch
150.00 tune
for 4000.00 you will be in the same ball park you were playin in for way less
500.00 formula
235.00 cam
100.00 cloyes double roller chain
250.00 1.6rockers
1100.00 ported heads
100.00 gaskets
250.00 new opti
450.00 headers/y-pipe
450.00 gears and instal
500.00 spec clutch
150.00 tune
for 4000.00 you will be in the same ball park you were playin in for way less
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sweet i will do that. how hard is the opti to replace? i was dicking around on autozone an they have the distributor for 159.. but without module? i need the module an the distributor right? an the accel opti comes with both right?
is that cam smog legal in ca? i dont wanan end up in the same boat i did with the other cars right now.
is that cam smog legal in ca? i dont wanan end up in the same boat i did with the other cars right now.
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The above mentioned camshafts probablly won't pass smog. Espeacially the 306. I've never been a fan of the 300 series LT-1 cams anyway. The XE line was always my favorite. The XE 224/230 would be a nice cam in that car that could probablly be tuned to pass emissions. That with some LE-2 heads and you'd have a nice budget LT-1. You should pass on the LT-4 heads. I've never seen a stock bottom end auto do anything with those. You should deffinatlly pick the car up if it seems like a good buy. The opti is a easy replacement, but stay away from auto zone. Either pick up a new one from GM parts direct or drop the extra dough and get the MSD replacement and not worry about it any more. The LT-1 can be made to hang with the LS-1 crowd to an extent. It will have alot better feel around town from stop light to stop light. They produce TQ way down low and it feels good. I had my stock short block running 11.80's before I sold it. That was on a XE-230/236. I was running 12.40's on the hotcam.
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$500 would be a great deal assuming the major stuff is in check. If for some reason you don't get that car and you still want something fast, skip an LT1. For the cost to build one and the fact they're even harder to work on than LS1's, it'll be a disapointment for sure.
I would actually rather have a fox body Mustang to be quite honest. They're much easier to work on, cheap to build, and they're set up alot better for drag racing with the 8.8 rear and upper control arms. Most people throw cheap or dated parts on which is why we run into alot of slow ones that are cammed. But if you're smart with mods, a well mannered street 306 can run low 11's. just a thought
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I would actually rather have a fox body Mustang to be quite honest. They're much easier to work on, cheap to build, and they're set up alot better for drag racing with the 8.8 rear and upper control arms. Most people throw cheap or dated parts on which is why we run into alot of slow ones that are cammed. But if you're smart with mods, a well mannered street 306 can run low 11's. just a thought
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sweet. so how hard is a cam instal on lt1s? i was thinking of getting a fox but the ones around where i live are all beat an on 22's an just ruined.. i have yet to find one that i would even consider. i will look into that xe cam for sure.
i will go get the right part from gm also. but what all do i need? just the distributor? or the distributor an the module? i dont know if the accel one comes with both.. iv never studied lt1s. never thought id get one. but 500 bux sounds good. i just need alil 2 cents on what to get parts wise to get her running.
i will go get the right part from gm also. but what all do i need? just the distributor? or the distributor an the module? i dont know if the accel one comes with both.. iv never studied lt1s. never thought id get one. but 500 bux sounds good. i just need alil 2 cents on what to get parts wise to get her running.
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i know i wont be happy with it.. as much as i was the ls1.. but would you pass up a clean *** lt1 formula for 500 bux with 90k miles?
Either way the LT1 platform is easier to get power out of for much less than an LS or SS. The 94' also have less restrictions and more room to work on than most think, my 97' TA is harder to work on than the 93' Z28
Just get a non-vented opti and you are good to go.
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damn really? i can get heads an cam for like 600 bux i saw somwhere. im pretty exited to build it up. im probly gonna try to do the cam my self. if its not to intricate. take it to rick at synergy have him tune it an be done with it. then sale it for 4gs later on. make 3500 bux
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Originally Posted by GEARHED
Either way the LT1 platform is easier to get power out of for much less than an LS or SS.
As someone who was long suspicous of LSX engines up to the day I bought my car in late 04, I'm happy to admit I was wrong.
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Originally Posted by Camaro99SS
I have to disagree here. You can get worked LS6 castings brand new assembled for barely over $1k that'll support alot more hp than Lloyd Elliot LT1's. His LE 2 packages are around $1700 and you still need rockers, pushrods, and lifters. Best case scenario on a fresh 355 or 383 with that is 400-420rwhp at most, about what a cam only LS1 will make.
As someone who was long suspicous of LSX engines up to the day I bought my car in late 04, I'm happy to admit I was wrong.
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As someone who was long suspicous of LSX engines up to the day I bought my car in late 04, I'm happy to admit I was wrong.
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I think he was taking the price of the car into the equation also. If you are going to put some money in your Lt1 you should do some searching around on camaroz28.com its more Lt1 friendly, as for Lt1 specific stuff. I wouldn't say you are going to be more disappointed with an Lt1, you just have to get the right mods for them. I personally fell caming a Lt1 without porting the heads is pointless cost wise. I would get long tubes, 4.10's, cutout, tune and some N20 instead of a cam and see if that car doesn't move under its weight nicely.