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Old May 11, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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well the title may be a bit odd, but i got my engine in a engine stand and want to swap my cam.
now i don't have any special fixationtools to keep the lifters up and due to maybe a high mile engine i don't like the risk of pushing them up and perhaps when i try to get the new cam in they drop.

Now is my question, if i would rotate the engine upsidedown , the lifters would likely not fall down (into the oilpan) , but is it possible for the lifters to drop to the top ?
by looking at this picture it would appear not ??
anybody done this ??


thanks, Jeejee

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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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With the lifter trays bolted in I'm pretty sure there is no way they'll fall out with the engine upside down.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Nope thats the farthest they will go up into the lifter tray, and the tray is bolted into the block
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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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The next question is will they move far enough up to clear the cam?
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Old May 11, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Yes spin the cam a few times and they are supposed to lock into the lifter trays and hold themselves up. If the lifter tray is worn, they can fall out
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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buy a mini telescope magnet at your local auto parts store.......one that will fit through the pushrod hole.......
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Thats actually not a good idea because those magnets have been known to come out of the pen and get stuck to the lifter....then you get to pull a head
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I guess it is possible......but I'll trust it better than just rotating the cam.....
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Get some 5/16" rod and grind a flat on it. Then slide it into the lifter oil passage and it will lock them all in place
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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If you spin the cam, the lifters are supposed to stay in the trays. The only thing that can cause them to fall is gravity. If it's upside down, I don't see how that could happen.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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i did my cam swap with the motor upside down, no issues at all, and no need to spend 90 bucks on a stupid tool
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Old May 12, 2007 | 03:41 AM
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yes that is what i thought, my only concern would be that the lifters would fall through the tray if the tray is worn somewhat and the engine is upsidedown , or would that be pretty impossible ???
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Old May 12, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Since motor is on a stand, I would go ahead and change the rod bolts with Katech ones.
An yes upside down you can swap cams with no issue.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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I get it, you're worried about them "falling up" to the heads. Won't happen. Check this pic out from LS1howto.com...

http://ls1howto.com/howto/fbody/head...icescraper.jpg
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Old May 12, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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all i did was use 2 metal rods about the size of the antennae(sp?) and slid them in the holes to hold the lifters up, worked fine.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckyt1
I get it, you're worried about them "falling up" to the heads. Won't happen. Check this pic out from LS1howto.com...

http://ls1howto.com/howto/fbody/head...icescraper.jpg


i was not quite sure how to put it, but you hit the nail on the head, Thanks
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