98Z28MASS

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On a side note though if you dont believe that its difficult to make 500 rwhp H/C/fast 90/90 through an a4 and a 12 bolt then check out the dyno section and see how many guys are making that power in an 05+ gto or an 05+ c6 as they both are 6.0 364 ci engines and look at their combos and go from there.

KCS

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Who do you really think would want to help you now? One of the more knowledgeable people on this board gave his advice and you insult him! You ask for help and then tell everyone they're wrong! You obviously already have an idea of what kind of cam you will need, so just go with that and let us know how it goes. Better yet, tell Patrick.

QSPres

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One of the most knowledgeable people here? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!


Same guy who's telling me that I'm going to have LESS COMPRESSION going from 72cc to 67 cc's on my heads.


Again, he has the perfect job at the perfect place. And now we all know why that company has the reputation it does....


As for the rest, I've already stated that TEA and others have told me 450 is doable with what I have. I guess I'll have to stick with those who KNOW instead of those who don't.........

98Z28MASS

iTrader: (6)

450 rwhp is doable, 500 rwhp isnt with your setup, and thats what people are stating. Plus why would you even post up here asking for advice if your already dealing with TEA and value their opinion over everyone elses? Makes no sense...

melchoir

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I didn't even realize that TR had anything but a great Reputation.
They've always answered my calls with no wait and have been helpful when I asked questions.

Patrick is no exception. I've asked his opinion numberous times, as have many others and I know that I have been satisified with my experience in any dealing with him.

You're a tool. You were quoted a high number by a single entity, and when faced with facts you can't handle it. 450hp through an automatic with a 12bolt N/A is difficult to achieve. Don't focus so much on the dyno number, but more with the track result as automatics are not dyno queens.

98Z28MASS

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Dont even bother trying to correct him, remeber he is the guy quoting dyno numbers from a magazine...

Street Lethal

They most certainly aren't dyno queens, but they are without a doubt quarter mile kings. The original poster has an idea of what he wants, and sounds as if he's already been sold on some concept in which he already collaborated with through another source. What he doesn't understand is that Patrick immediately looks to maximize one's horsepower, but in order to do that, symmetry must come into play....

Patrick G

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For what it's worth, I do not work for Comp Cams, nor am I a direct employee of Thunder Racing. I own a multi-million dollar automotive marketing firm and I hot-rod LS1s as a hobby and do contract work for Thunder Racing. I only mention the business owning aspect to show you that I'm educated and certainly no dummy.

I have been involved with the LS1 racing scene since 1998 (and 2 decades of previous bracket racing experience with various Chevys and Mopars). I'm a 44 year old individual that doesn't claim to know everything about these LS1s, but I've had more mod experience than most people on the board. Much of this experience came from making mistakes and learning from them over the past 9 years. If that's not worth your casual consideration, then you're not being very open minded.

On another note, a stock 243 head has a chamber size of 64cc. This is what goes on all new 6.0L LS2s. Your ported 853 heads only flow slightly better than unmodified 243 heads yet have less compression. This is why I gave them only a 0-10 rwhp advantage over the 243s. Perhaps you should read more carefully before you respond.

Nine Ball

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Nine Ball

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Not when you act like a rude jerk and talk crap to people that try to help you. Nobody here owes you any assistance or help, so quit bitching about it. Maybe if you would learn to absorb and appreciate someone's help, they would be more willing to reply. If you are such an expert at recognizing experts, then why the hell do you need our advice? Go spec your own cam.

777

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Let me get this straight you will take one company's advice but not a whole boards? Is it just because you like what you hear from them better since it's higher numbers. You ask for help, but then badmouth anyone who gives advice?

What is your point, why not call TEA and find out what cam they want you to use. Then you will have your so called 450-500rwhp.

You will be happy (until you put it on the dyno) and we will be too (we won't have to deal with an idiot)

777

iTrader: (21)

Because we care that a 6.0l engine made 500rwhp? Big deal, wouldn't be the first time.

QSPres

iTrader: (15)

Thanks for proving my point...........


I guess you should be banned too... After all, you're going against the "expert".........

BIG_MIKE2005

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You sir need to pull your head outta your *** before you sit down & break your neck.

You certainly don't know who you need to listen to from your stupid replies to help especially comin from Patrick. If you think your so smart about all this **** why you askin questions?? From the way you talk your mind is already made up & you already know everything.

I'll laugh my *** off when you don't hit your goals b/c you were to damn hard headed to take the correct advice.

QSPres

iTrader: (15)

So taking this advice will allow me to reach my goals? LOL. Another brain trust heard from........



You guys certainly are entertaining, but nothing else....

TheBlurLS1

iTrader: (8)

This pic comes to mind in this thread.



Do you think this is the first time we've dealt with a bull-headed jackass such as yourself? Don't bite the hand that feeds (you information).





That's sig material!

QSPres

iTrader: (15)

Still waiting for information..........


So far nothing here but more material for my waders....

QSPres

iTrader: (15)

Yawn............

777

iTrader: (21)

Get this
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft - T-ReX v.2 - 242/248 - .608/.612 - 110 lsa 3500-6700 RPM Power Band. Violent mid-range & high RPM power. Requires computer tuning, 4000+ converter on autos, 4.30's or greater depending on transmission. Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended. Due to the extreme nature of this camshaft, piston to valve clearance must be verified when using modified cylinder heads.

http://thunderracing.com/dynographs/...n=read&pgid=60

With a fast 90/90, ported heads, extra cubes, you should be at least the 550rwhp.

BIG_MIKE2005

iTrader: (116)

LOL, go find another LS information board with more technical information thats actually correct. Hell I'll save you the time, there isn't one. This is the LARGEST LS based forum on the internet & has more accurate technical information than you could ever begin to soak up.

You asked a simple question. Patrick anwsered it & gave a full explaination on the reason for his anwser. You didn't like not hearin you were gonna have high numbers just cause TEA told you something different. How ****** stupid is that?? If your only willing to listen to what that shop says then have them build your whole damn set-up. Otherwise you might need to listen to others on here & learn to accept that you might not hit the exact number you want without makin some other changes.

Just remember any damn idiot can slap a motor combo together, but how long it lasts & how efficient it is depends upon matchin parts perfectly together. If your not gonna take the time to do that then why even bother?? Just b/c some of the advice is something you don't want to hear or is different from what you read in a magazine, doesn't mean its incorrect info.

Don't believe everything you read in magazines for starters.