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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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Looking at MMS stage II heads and cam

MMS Stage II heads
Stage II upgrade 9.7:1
Titanium retainers
Manley valve springs

These are a 99+ 5.7 LS1 heads with the chambers enlarged a little for a boosted application (70-71cc). Valves are stainless 2.02/1.57.

MMS 218 Cam: 218/218 561/561 114ls


What kind of HP gains can I expect from this h/c setup...listed mods below

Current Mods: SLP Loudmouth,ASP Underdrive Pulley,Clear MTI lid,Holley Power Shot Air filter,FRA,!CAGS,Lous short stick,Motive 4.10 gears,TA girdle,SLP speedo corrector,Nitto 555R's (rear only),SLP line lock,BMR STB,LCA's,and SFC's,SLP Bellow,TB Coolant Bypass,Ported/Polished/Descreened MAF Ends, Raptor Performance shift light(Blue LED's), !pass wire, Express down, !auto headlights

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Old May 12, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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Also what other parts would you reccomend when installing this h/c package
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Old May 12, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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thats a very mild cam for stage 2 heads... r u going to use a supercharger? if so, i'd get more exhaust duration on the cam, maybe 218/226 or so...
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Old May 12, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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yeah, eventually I'm going to go supercharger, but that's down the road a year or so.

Would this pass emissions n/a? Should I get hardened push rods? What gaskets, and headbolts should I get?
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Old May 12, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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it 'should' pass, but thats a hit and miss item... longtubes on a stock motor will fail a visual test, but may pass a tailpipe test (even without cats)... it all depends on what they check in ur area... hardened pushrods couldn't hurt, and ask ur head builder on what they recommend for gaskets/bolts... just remember that with the lower compression/bigger cam, ur low end power will be lower until u get 'boosted'...
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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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This is what MMS reccomended
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-Comp Cams 7955-16 pushrods 7.400" (for heads not milled more than .005")
-Stock GM MLS head gaskets used on 2001 Z06
-ARP head studs
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Where's the best place to get this stuff
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Old May 14, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Anyone have any suggestions as to where to get the stuff listed above...

Also since it's gonna be a while till I can get a SC I'm thinkin about going with a different Cam...Any reccomendations?
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Old May 14, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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what is the size valve's? if you don't need it for supercharger the heads S2 don't need like this cam's (218/218 561/561 114ls) there's many cam's you can chice it & you'll be better in perfor & hp's, call the MMS and ask about best cam for this heads. check this out with FMS & TR.

For example:
226"/226" .591"/.591" 112LSA

224"/224" .566"/.566" 112LSA

226"/226" .575"/.575" 112LSA

Good luck
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Old May 15, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Valves are stainless 2.02/1.57

I'm gonna have to give them a call, thanx for the advice, and reccomendations
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Old May 15, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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How many pounds of boost do you plan on running, will you be getting a forged bottom end when the supercharger goes on
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Old May 16, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Well I plan on atleast 10. I'm thinkin I might be able to pull off 12. and yes I would be getting a forged bottom
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