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something similar to the g5x1 (228/232)
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fm13 (230/232)
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a reverse split cam: mti x1 (230/227) tr230 (230/224)
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Old 08-03-2007, 09:28 PM
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228/232 112 LSA or 236/242 110 LSA
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Originally Posted by 0utLawZ28
go with the big cam
what big cam??
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Originally Posted by chae
228/232 112 LSA or 236/242 110 LSA
there is a big difference between those cams...i personally dont want to go with something as large as the second choice
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Originally Posted by quiet_storm98
there is a big difference between those cams...i personally dont want to go with something as large as the second choice
You could go for something in between those two choices. Something like a 232/234 (Futral Motorsports) or 233/239 (Texas Speed). Both could be ground on a 112 or a 114 LSA.

P.S. Personally I would go 112 LSA and ask if they could custom grind a 110 LSA, but maybe that's just me.
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You may also want to consider a custom grind from Ed Curtis at Flowtech Induction. He doesn't use off the shelf grinds like so many others. He also has his own custom lobes. New Era Performance is a sponsor that sells his custom cams together with the valvetrain upgrades as a package.

Here are some that may interest you. Also remember that he can also custom grind you a cam depending on what your goals are. He is one of the top cam designers in the country. I would give him a call if you are serious about choosing the right cam for your set-up.


"StreetSweeper-TQ" Camshaft
Specs: 220*-224*-111*-.597"-.592"
"HELLFIRE-TQ" Camshaft
Specs: 224*-224*-110*-.635"-.610"
"REBEL-TQ" Camshaft
Specs: 224*-228*-111*-.600"-.600"
"SweetSweeper-HT" Camshaft
Specs: 228*-232*-111*-.612"-.600"
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If you're going to be running a Fast 90/90 then I'd say the g5x1... Other possible options I would consider; 228/228r, 224/228, 224/230... That's just me though, I'd like a car to pull good throughout the rpm, rather than 4k & up...From what I understand the reverse split cams were designed for lesser flowing intakes (LS1,lS6).


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Try my new setup, every bolt on except for the ewp, ud pulley but with afr 205 heads. My 228/228 113 lsa made 450rwhp and 412rwtq. Through m6 10 bolt and fast 90 nw 90 tb
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Originally Posted by chae
You could go for something in between those two choices. Something like a 232/234 (Futral Motorsports) or 233/239 (Texas Speed). Both could be ground on a 112 or a 114 LSA.

P.S. Personally I would go 112 LSA and ask if they could custom grind a 110 LSA, but maybe that's just me.
yeah i plan on going with a 112 or a 110...also i have been looking into the flowtech induction cams but i haven't really seen any results with them..i may just get a custom cam ground... I actually already have a cam that i bought from someone else for only $50, I just sent it out to be cam doctored and should be getting it back soon. it is supposed to be a custom ground 226 cam with .591 inches of lift on a 112lsa but i think i may want to go a lil bigger. I guess i will wait and see the results of the cam doctor and then go from there.
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Originally Posted by quiet_storm98
yeah i plan on going with a 112 or a 110...also i have been looking into the flowtech induction cams but i haven't really seen any results with them..i may just get a custom cam ground... I actually already have a cam that i bought from someone else for only $50, I just sent it out to be cam doctored and should be getting it back soon. it is supposed to be a custom ground 226 cam with .591 inches of lift on a 112lsa but i think i may want to go a lil bigger. I guess i will wait and see the results of the cam doctor and then go from there.
Give Mike at New Era Performance a call (585-865-1832). New Era sells the Flowtech Induction custom ground cams. They aren't listen on their website. Many of these cams have made over 400 RWHP with stock heads. Tell Mike at New Era that Michael Howie from Rochester, NY referred you. From the results that I've seen you will not be disappointed with the results (dyno numbers and track times) from a cam designed by Ed Curtis at Flowtech Induction.
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Originally Posted by quiet_storm98
they have intrigued me as well...from what i hear they work well with dual exhaust
I personally feel that this cam will give you everything that you want and are looking for from your car. Alot of people dont know much about these cams and are quick to give a bias opinion. For set-up and goals for the car, my first choice would be a reverse split.... for what it is worth, my second choice would be a 228/232 on a 112. This is the 3rd tread on the third forum I have seen you post on. With all the different specs that are being thrown at you, ask for a specific reason these specs are being picked. You will recieve alot of feedback from people who "THINK" that the specs they are providing are going to be in your best interest. Only you can make that decision and only you know what you really want and expect from you car after the parts are installed.

Like I said before, you have all the supporting parts and a great set of heads to compliment a reverse split cam and I personally feel that it will out shine the 228/232 cam without and sacrifice to drivability or mileage.

Goodluck with whatever you choose and keep us updated.
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Originally Posted by Chris Gage
I personally feel that this cam will give you everything that you want and are looking for from your car. Alot of people dont know much about these cams and are quick to give a bias opinion. For set-up and goals for the car, my first choice would be a reverse split.... for what it is worth, my second choice would be a 228/232 on a 112. This is the 3rd tread on the third forum I have seen you post on. With all the different specs that are being thrown at you, ask for a specific reason these specs are being picked. You will recieve alot of feedback from people who "THINK" that the specs they are providing are going to be in your best interest. Only you can make that decision and only you know what you really want and expect from you car after the parts are installed.

Like I said before, you have all the supporting parts and a great set of heads to compliment a reverse split cam and I personally feel that it will out shine the 228/232 cam without and sacrifice to drivability or mileage.

Goodluck with whatever you choose and keep us updated.
thanks for the advice...i will probably either go with a reverse split or a 228/232...i believe either one will give me the power i want but from what i have heard from a few cam gurus is that once you add a fast 90/90 into the equation and even nitrous a traditional split will work better then a reverse split. I plan on adding a fast 90/90 in the future and may even add some nitrous eventually so the traditional split may end up being a better choice overall
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Originally Posted by red_ryderSS
Try my new setup, every bolt on except for the ewp, ud pulley but with afr 205 heads. My 228/228 113 lsa made 450rwhp and 412rwtq. Through m6 10 bolt and fast 90 nw 90 tb

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thanks pdd. you got yourself a nice setup yourself
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i actually have a 226/226 cam that i just had cam doctored by thunder racing...im wondering if i should just hold on to that or sell it for something a lil bigger
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so what did the 226 cam turn out to be.... lift & lsa?? If you decide to go bigger I might be interested in it if it's the right specs.
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A couple things worth noting:

two cams of the same duration, cam A has 114 LSA, cam B has 110 LSA. Cam A will idle smoother, but be a bit softer in the low-end, with a higher peak HP (more rpm). Cam B will have a choppier idle, but should make more low/mid-range and peak earlier.

Most cams in the upper 220's - lower 230's will give acceptable idle quality, even when ground on a tight 110 LSA.

Reverse split grinds do seem to favor a restricted intake, with a good flowing exhaust (think bolt-on, cam only car with great headers). With your heads, and the potential for a FAST 90/90 in your future, a symetric grind or traditional split seems to make more sense.

All that said, G5X1 is a great cam if you go off the shelf. Of late, the 228/232 110+1 has gained a pretty good following as a custom ground street cam that makes lots of usable power, without having to rev to the moon. Bigger cams may sound 'better', or make 'more power' by some opinions, but aren't as optimal for your specs.

Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by 85Iroc
so what did the 226 cam turn out to be.... lift & lsa?? If you decide to go bigger I might be interested in it if it's the right specs.
the specs were 226.2/226.4 .589/.589 on a 111.7 lsa... my friend that had this cam ran a best of 11.23 @120 with this cam and ported GTP ls1 heads in a full weight car and he used to drive it alot on the street so overall it is a pretty good street cam that makes decent power...im just thinking about going a lil bigger
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I'd skip the reverse split if your going to the FAST 90mm intake set up later on unless you can find some proof that reverse split works well with the FAST set up.

Ask Patrick and ask TEA see what they suggest.

My .02 would be toward a smaller cam. I like the TR-224's and 224 XE-R, like I have but that's smaller than what your wanting.

I'd guess 228/232 on a 112 with XE-R or similar lobes would be in the ballpark.

Part of it depends on how high your willing to spin the motor.
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go with a speed inc. cam i got their SI5 cam with stock heads on an 01 SS and my car makes over 400 to the wheels cam and boltons . stock rear end and gear
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well the guy i bought the heads from has a custom spec'd fms cam that is brand new so i will probably just buy that since it was ground to match the heads



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