Down low.. How much does the Torquer 2 give to a TR224?
08-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Given the same mods with the only difference being the cam your 226 will not walk a tr224 any day ever.
08-31-2007, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by GT Griller
No only difference in mods was he had an ls6 intake to my ls1 intake...same stall same bolt ons, went from a 30 roll and put 3 cars on him by 110 every time.
I matched up in a similar instance with an FM13 to my TR224 and outpulled the thing all the way to 6000 rpms. Then he eclipsed me over 6k by about 7hp but never once touched my torque and when you avg'ed it all out I put down better avg numbers than he did hp and tq. You need to go a lot bigger than 226 to outpull a tr224 proven fact and you need some damn good heads to bring the torque up that your sacrificing by going with a lot bigger cam.
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08-31-2007, 12:17 AM
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I decided I'm going with the TR224..
I had one years ago and never installed it.. Sold it when I got into spending my $$ elsewhere.. Now I am back to the car.. I guess it all goes in phases..
So.. TR224 in a 112LSA..
Now the heads.. I am seriously torn between the PRC Stage 2.5 5.3's and the Patriot Stage 2 5.3's..
It's a toughie..
I had one years ago and never installed it.. Sold it when I got into spending my $$ elsewhere.. Now I am back to the car.. I guess it all goes in phases..
So.. TR224 in a 112LSA..
Now the heads.. I am seriously torn between the PRC Stage 2.5 5.3's and the Patriot Stage 2 5.3's..
It's a toughie..
08-31-2007, 12:34 AM
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I have thought about the TR 230 cam..
I just don't want to get soo aggressive a cam that the daily driving aspects of the car are ruined..
It's not a track car.. It will be a street car.. I would much rather build it up to be a street car rather than have some blazing fast machine that is only good for the track..
I just don't want to get soo aggressive a cam that the daily driving aspects of the car are ruined..
It's not a track car.. It will be a street car.. I would much rather build it up to be a street car rather than have some blazing fast machine that is only good for the track..
08-31-2007, 09:33 AM
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Driving aspects have a lot to do with the tune and the whole combination together.
The 230 would be a good cam but it's powerband will kick in later than sooner.
I would go with the Patriot 5.3's simply for the fact their customer service is top of the line. The heads will be about the same as far as flow numbers go, but Patriot's customer service is heads above TSP. Call Gunnar and tell him what cam your going to run and the heads you want and ask him what he recommends. Milling, what gasket.... he's point you in the right direction and then you'll be good to go.
The 230 would be a good cam but it's powerband will kick in later than sooner.
I would go with the Patriot 5.3's simply for the fact their customer service is top of the line. The heads will be about the same as far as flow numbers go, but Patriot's customer service is heads above TSP. Call Gunnar and tell him what cam your going to run and the heads you want and ask him what he recommends. Milling, what gasket.... he's point you in the right direction and then you'll be good to go.
08-31-2007, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
I will guaranty it has nothing to do with the cam. You dont walk away from anyone all things being equal because you have a 226 vs a tr224 cam. It's a 2* difference and that's it. Its not the cam, it's his car. If its not a tr224 then all bets are off. There are plenty of wannabe 224's out there.
I matched up in a similar instance with an FM13 to my TR224 and outpulled the thing all the way to 6000 rpms. Then he eclipsed me over 6k by about 7hp but never once touched my torque and when you avg'ed it all out I put down better avg numbers than he did hp and tq. You need to go a lot bigger than 226 to outpull a tr224 proven fact and you need some damn good heads to bring the torque up that your sacrificing by going with a lot bigger cam.
I matched up in a similar instance with an FM13 to my TR224 and outpulled the thing all the way to 6000 rpms. Then he eclipsed me over 6k by about 7hp but never once touched my torque and when you avg'ed it all out I put down better avg numbers than he did hp and tq. You need to go a lot bigger than 226 to outpull a tr224 proven fact and you need some damn good heads to bring the torque up that your sacrificing by going with a lot bigger cam.
08-31-2007, 02:06 PM
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Well, I'm not mainly buying it based on sound.. but how it sounds has a little play in it, as it it's all super lopey and doesn't sound good, I don't think I'd be pleased..
I really like the RPM range on the TR224.. 1700-6600rpm..
I really like the RPM range on the TR224.. 1700-6600rpm..