Pic of what i found on my oil drain Plug :(
09-05-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LightEmUpLs1
why does the dowel pin still need to be in there if u have 3 bolts holding them on
Without it you could just bolt the gear on & line the dots up, but the cam might be spun out of time. The gear has a specific orientation on the face of the cam to ensure the lobes are rotated where they should be when the dots are aligned.
09-05-2007, 11:20 AM
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Looks like a cam dowel to me too. If it was a lifter pin you'd have the needle bearings down there with it. Plus you'd notice a very loose rocker since you had the valve covers off.
09-05-2007, 03:09 PM
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Your going back up with it? That piston that has been hitting the head is gonna blow apart and you will demolish your block. Several people in this thread have already tried to warn you before you do more damage than what's already done. If you decide to ignore the advice given, make sure you post pictures of the holey block and broken rods. People love to see carnage and to say I told you so.
09-05-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
Your going back up with it? That piston that has been hitting the head is gonna blow apart and you will demolish your block. Several people in this thread have already tried to warn you before you do more damage than what's already done. If you decide to ignore the advice given, make sure you post pictures of the holey block and broken rods. People love to see carnage and to say I told you so.
09-05-2007, 04:03 PM
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LOL... dude quit being a ignorant "****" acting like you allready know everything and just read what people are telling you. You did the whole cam swap procedure WRONG! In result your **** fell apart. You have like 5 people that have allready told you that it was the dowel pin and to NOT put the motor back together... Try and pick up a book it might help you...
09-05-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Blck_01ss
LOL... dude quit being a ignorant "****" acting like you allready know everything and just read what people are telling you. You did the whole cam swap procedure WRONG! In result your **** fell apart. You have like 5 people that have allready told you that it was the dowel pin and to NOT put the motor back together... Try and pick up a book it might help you...
09-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jermzz
Honestly, I've never really heard of cam gear bolts coming out due to lack of locktite. Personally I just clean the bolts, stick them back in and torque to spec a couple passes... never had a problem doing it this way. I think he didnt torque them to spec. If he torqued the "****" out of them like he said he did without using a torque wrench there's a high possibility they would strip. just my .02
09-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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Id put it back together as long as the valves arent bent. As long as they arent bent you should be OK. The pistons dont look too bad, just a little kissing from the valves. take the heads to the machine shop for a check and if they are ok then put it back together, do it right this time.
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09-05-2007, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jermzz
Honestly, I've never really heard of cam gear bolts coming out due to lack of locktite. Personally I just clean the bolts, stick them back in and torque to spec a couple passes... never had a problem doing it this way. I think he didnt torque them to spec. If he torqued the "****" out of them like he said he did without using a torque wrench there's a high possibility they would strip. just my .02
Thats about the ONLY rational thing I can think of. That dowl pin isn't gonna just fall out. It had to have some sort of side/side or up/down motion to walk it out. I think this is the only case of this I have ever seen or heard of.
09-05-2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Blck_01ss
lol go look at the pics and tell me what you see on top of the pistons (damage has been done). The motor might run for a little while if he puts it back together just a matter of how long, and I doubt it will make any power if so. Pan needs to be dropped, and the heads need to be checked the end.
09-05-2007, 04:25 PM
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^^^ Yeah it was something involving the assembly of the cam gear like improper/uneven tq procedures that allowed enough vibration/harmonics so that the dowel came loose. Very rare but **** happens.
09-05-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Id put it back together as long as the valves arent bent. As long as they arent bent you should be OK. The pistons dont look too bad, just a little kissing from the valves.
would you put your motor back together if you had chunks of metal and that many shavings on your oil plug? I wouldnt.
09-05-2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jermzz
would you put your motor back together if you had chunks of metal and that many shavings on your oil plug? I wouldnt.
Youre making it out to be a lot worse than it probably is IMO.
is what the block is going to do if you run it with bent rods! 