MonkeyBoneSS

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Is anyone running any of these cams? Did a search but only got one page, I saw an article in GMHTP. Guy had a VRX3 - 226/228 .585/.588 113 LSA. He claimes 459 hp/405 tq, also paired with TEA 1.5 LS6, FAST 90/90.

That sounds pretty good to me Never really thought about Ven. but now I've been looking at what they can produce. Just wanted to see who is running any of their cams and their over all thoughts.

getthesand0ut

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there should be alot of stuff on here about ven. they have really big power setups from what ive seen with there h/c/i kits..

teke184

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those numbers seem a bit inflated for being a mild cam, basic heads...even with the FAST.

i'm sure it's a potent combo...plenty of power in the mid range and a good sound and manners.

but don't count on making that much power.


i think its kindda like a few years ago when the TRex cam out...they claimed 451rwhp on untouched stock heads (claimed)...yet i'm not sure anyone has really seen more than 425rwhp with the same setup.

99blancoSS

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Take it from experience you will never match what you see on the internet unless you use their dyno. ( not directed at Vengeance) general statement about dyno numbers

Ron@Vengeance

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The car in GMHTP is very much legit. The customer has been on several dynos other than ours to validate his #s. He made 430s before the addition of a ported FAST. It doesnt take huge cams to make big power, it takes well thought out COMBINATIONS.... The VRX3 typically makes 385 to 395 in stock headed LS1 applications.. Add a good set of heads (30-40 at the wheels) and you are making 420 to 435rwhp... Add a GOOD ported FAST 90mm (typically another 20 to 30rwhp) and you have a nice MILD 450rwhp with good power under the curve.

On that note, we have several VRX3 Z06s with TrickFlows/FAST that make 465 to 475rwhp and drive like absolutely stock.

Again guys, dont buy into a magical "camshaft" concept... Its the PACKAGE.... I have seen our Vindicator cam make anywhere from 405 to 445 in stock headed applications... Kinda goes to show once again, its the PACKAGE that makes the power, not just the camshaft

99blancoSS

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A vette with the same combo as an fbody will put up better numbers due to a more efficent drivetrain. Thats part of what I mean. If somebody reads this and see's 465-475 with a 226/228 cam they are going to be upset when they put that into their fbody and pull 410.

It's never stated enough on here that the end user really needs to look at all the facts. An fbody and a Vette have distinctly different transfers of power to the wheels. Also your location geographicaly makes a difference.
You dont dyno the same at sea level as you do at 3000 ft, or humidity as well. Environmental conditon have almost as much effect on power as the combo itself.

Also weight of the car makes a difference in how it will drive. Rear-end gears and rear-end. The combo part is drasticly understated on here, cudos to Ron for pointing that out. It cant be pointed out enough.

BlackScreaminMachine

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I just orded my VRX3 cam yesterday on a 112 LSA, with my heavier Driveline (M6, 12 bolt 3" steel ds) and supporting mods (SLP flow pack, Headers, cat back, Fast 90/90 ported by ron with his BlueMaxx 90mm TB) and tune, I hope for 420rwhp.

BOWTIE

Wrong... Same for Same, an F-body will put up a better number than a Vette. The IRS is less effecient than the stock axle in the f-body. Now throw a 9" in the F-body and ???

evo2ls1

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agreed in stock drive train a vette will have lower numbers than a f-body

WSsick

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is there a reason you brought back a thread from 2007 just to agree?

evo2ls1

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no i just realized this thread was super old, lets pretend i didnt post this haha

TXZ28LS1

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love the power ive been seeing from vengeance. if i were to go bigger definitely love to see the VRX5.

Damian

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I've used the X3 twice, and saw 395rwhp both times. It's very realistic to achieve 450rwhp with that cam when you consider a great set of heads and ported FAST intake.

But as stated by Ron, it's about the combination. Not finding the coolest camshaft on the internet and installing it.

Gh0st

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I made 410whp with VRX3, GMPP/LPE LS6 heads, FAST92, and bolt ons.

I made 363 "cam only" with the VRX3

your move may vary

9secondsflat

i have the 5x in my car along with a heads and intake setup spec'ed by ron... i ran side by side with a new zr1 to 150...and have pulled away from may new z06's on the highway as well...

SleeperZzZ28

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I made 430/410 with the x3 and cheap ol TEA ported 5.3 heads stage 1.5 and fast 92. I believe 450 is possible, my car has always dyno'd low. I think with a better set of heads I could be near the 450 mark.